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Old 08-24-2012, 10:19 AM
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Cummins swap

I'm sure this has come up before but is it possible to drop a dentside super cab and bed onto a dodge chassis which has the cummins engine, driveline etc. already to go?
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:13 PM
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I have seen a cummins dropped into a ford, but not a ford body onto a dodge chassis. You would have to check frame width, adjust body mounts, etc. It would require quite a bit of fabrication. It would be easier to drop the cummins into the ford.
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it's about as much work as putting the cummins in the ford.

Posted these before a few times for this same question, but here's a crew cab on a dodge 2004 reg cab, long bed frame (I think). Been years since I talked with the guy so I can't remember. He wanted to use the dodge body mounts so he stretched the front end of the truck. Looks goofy to me.
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they did that on POWERBLOCK truck show on spike a while back. They found a Dodge 1997 extra cab long bed and was able to make it work but had to do new body mounts and move the engine about 5" back. But I agree that it would be better to use a ford chassis and mount the cummins on it.
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or just throw a strong healthy 460 in there
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79 crew on a extracab longbed frame.
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or just throw a strong healthy 460 in there
Why? Cummins has more power AND gets about twice the mileage
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they did that on POWERBLOCK truck show on spike a while back. They found a Dodge 1997 extra cab long bed and was able to make it work but had to do new body mounts and move the engine about 5" back.
Yep. It was on the show 'Trucks', and it was called Project Super Dually. Very extensive fab work with the core support, dash, steering column. ect. A long and labor intensive project. I believe they have 9 individual episodes so far, dedicated just to that project.
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And I think all the episodes can be found online still. I've watched most of them, but not all.

Again - there is a bit of fab either way you go. So pick if you want to make cab/body mounts or motor/trans mounts.
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I dont really get it... if thats what you want just get an early dodge... if you want a ford keep the ford and swap the motor. personally if I was gonna be swapping bodies to a late model frame, which is a lot of work, I'd go with one of the older body style trucks. Not much of an advantage to swapping frames from a 70's ford to a 90's dodge. similar axles, both ladder style frames, etc. Now, if you are starting with an old body like a 50's one, then the later frame gives you all kinda of upgrades. and the body is more iconic. maybe makes it worth the extra work.
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they did that on POWERBLOCK truck show on spike a while back. They found a Dodge 1997 extra cab long bed and was able to make it work but had to do new body mounts and move the engine about 5" back.
What an unlimited budget can do to a vehicle....

Put a IDI in it,There cheap easy as hell to work on and with a turbo can pretty much keep up with a cummins.
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This has nothing to do with the OP's post, bit it's an interesting anecdote:

The late casino magnate William F. Harrah was also an auto enthusiast. He built a huge collection of antique cars, sports cars, etc. (You can see many of them at the National Auto Museum in Reno, NV).

Mr. Harrah owned a casino in Reno and another at Lake Tahoe, and understandably had to make frequent trips between the two casinos. He needed a 4x4 in the winter months and was unhappy with the performance of his Jeep Wagoneer...

The story goes he approached Enzo Ferrari about building him a 4x4 Ferrari but was turned down. He had a bunch of top-notch mechanics employed working on the various vehicles in his collection so he got them to build him a "Jerrari"; a Ferrari powered Jeep Wagoneer.

The first version was a 1969 and had all new front end bodywork. The second one was a 1976 Wagoneer and his guys stretched the front end sheet metal. From the outside you have to look pretty closely to see something's amiss (if you don't catch the Jerrari emblem). I'll bet you can find a story about it if you Google "Harrah's Jerrari "or something like that.
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Put a IDI in it,There cheap easy as hell to work on and with a turbo can pretty much keep up with a cummins.
With a turbo and a lot of work they can almost be a distant second to a stock, gen 1 cummins.

It's about the same amount of work, so why not go with the better option from the start?



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This has nothing to do with the OP's post, bit it's an interesting anecdote:

The late casino magnate William F. Harrah was also an auto enthusiast. He built a huge collection of antique cars, sports cars, etc. (You can see many of them at the National Auto Museum in Reno, NV).

Mr. Harrah owned a casino in Reno and another at Lake Tahoe, and understandably had to make frequent trips between the two casinos. He needed a 4x4 in the winter months and was unhappy with the performance of his Jeep Wagoneer...

The story goes he approached Enzo Ferrari about building him a 4x4 Ferrari but was turned down. He had a bunch of top-notch mechanics employed working on the various vehicles in his collection so he got them to build him a "Jerrari"; a Ferrari powered Jeep Wagoneer.

The first version was a 1969 and had all new front end bodywork. The second one was a 1976 Wagoneer and his guys stretched the front end sheet metal. From the outside you have to look pretty closely to see something's amiss (if you don't catch the Jerrari emblem). I'll bet you can find a story about it if you Google "Harrah's Jerrari "or something like that.
I've heard about it/them. Should be some info somewhere online.

And since we are on the off-topic bit. Anyone ever seen the Lamboghini "SUVs"? Kind of like a crazy hummer. Built for Saudi military or something. Used to be one on the island here and my uncle (does a lot if HIGH end cars) had a customer or 2 with one. They are crazy! And thinking about it now - I've seen 3 of them in person in my life. That's 3 more than most people ever will & probably 2/3 of the total quantity of them in the US - maybe north america! Living near the annoying yuppies in Newport Beach does have weird perks from time to time
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And since we are on the off-topic bit. Anyone ever seen the Lamboghini "SUVs"? Kind of like a crazy hummer. Built for Saudi military or something. Used to be one on the island here and my uncle (does a lot if HIGH end cars) had a customer or 2 with one. They are crazy! And thinking about it now - I've seen 3 of them in person in my life. That's 3 more than most people ever will & probably 2/3 of the total quantity of them in the US - maybe north america! Living near the annoying yuppies in Newport Beach does have weird perks from time to time
Ya I remember when those came out, there were a few magazine articles on them. They seemed to be fairly capable 4x's. Lamborghini lm002.



Here is one for sale http://refined-marques.com/lamborghini-Lm002-4x4/ but evidently the old saying holds true, if you have to ask you can't afford it.

Now that we have completely hijacked this guys thread.
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