Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

94 E4OD to M5OD Swap?

  #1  
Old 12-12-2012, 07:21 PM
351W1085's Avatar
351W1085
351W1085 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
94 E4OD to M5OD Swap?

Hey Everyone, I have a 94 F-150 5.8 E4OD 4x4. My auto trans is going bad and I was thinking of converting it to the M5OD 5 speed manual.
I know that I will need to:
Cut a hole in the floor for the shifter
Install a 3 pedal setup in the cab
Install a clutch master cylinder on the cab
run the hydraulic line down to the clutch.

I already have a transfer case for the 5 speed

Can anyone else think of any problems I might run into with this project?
 
  #2  
Old 12-12-2012, 07:56 PM
IDIDieselJohn's Avatar
IDIDieselJohn
IDIDieselJohn is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 8,005
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
If you can find one before you find a M5OD....go for a ZF5. MUCH better transmission, both in terms of longevity and gearing.

The M5OD has such a TALL Reverse gear, if you have to back up a trailer, say goodbye to your clutch! At least your 4x4 so you can just stick it in 4 LO but still.

I hate my M5OD, and if ever something was to happen to it, ZF5 it is!


However, finding a small block 4x4 ZF5 is pretty hard to find.....


Otherwise, sounds like you already know what your doing.

Might have to mod your current tranny cross member or get one from a 5 speed truck.


And you will need a clutch pedal assembly from a 1992-96 F-series, other years wont work.
 
  #3  
Old 12-12-2012, 07:58 PM
Blown349's Avatar
Blown349
Blown349 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 351W1085
Hey Everyone, I have a 94 F-150 5.8 E4OD 4x4. My auto trans is going bad and I was thinking of converting it to the M5OD 5 speed manual.
I know that I will need to:
Cut a hole in the floor for the shifter
Install a 3 pedal setup in the cab
Install a clutch master cylinder on the cab
run the hydraulic line down to the clutch.

I already have a transfer case for the 5 speed

Can anyone else think of any problems I might run into with this project?
The Mazda tranny was never placed behind a 351W. It is not rated for the power a 351 puts out and is a light duty tranny. You will need a ZF tranny out of an F250 that will hold-up and has the benefit of a granny gear.

Here's a conversion thread:

http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=198076
 
  #4  
Old 12-12-2012, 08:01 PM
impish's Avatar
impish
impish is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Computers made to run with auto trans. have slightly different programs. I have interchanged computers with EEC-IV, like yours, without noticeable glitches, but that does not mean you will be happy with the way your E4OD intended computer behaves running a manual trans. You likely will get "check engine" codes generated, as your computer tries to figure out what's happening with the E4OD which ain't there no more. At that point, you will want to get the correct computer for your application, as specified for manual trans. impish
 
  #5  
Old 12-12-2012, 08:03 PM
IDIDieselJohn's Avatar
IDIDieselJohn
IDIDieselJohn is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 8,005
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
^^^^ That to. A C6 engine computer will also work as the C6 doesn't use a computer so it's just like the standard transmission computer.
 
  #6  
Old 12-12-2012, 08:03 PM
rangergirl94's Avatar
rangergirl94
rangergirl94 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Geneva,Ohio
Posts: 656
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Imo the m5od will probably hold up ive never and any issues and I pull alot of weight for well over 200,000 miles I like it better than my zf for intown driving
 
  #7  
Old 12-12-2012, 08:58 PM
Blown349's Avatar
Blown349
Blown349 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rangergirl94
Imo the m5od will probably hold up ive never and any issues and I pull alot of weight for well over 200,000 miles I like it better than my zf for intown driving

Probably?, What's an M5OD rated for? There is a reason Ford did not put it behind a 351W and the torque it can deliver. Torque input is different than what you tow.
 
  #8  
Old 12-12-2012, 10:24 PM
blkF250HD's Avatar
blkF250HD
blkF250HD is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Hartland, WI
Posts: 1,119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Go for the ZF right off the bat. It's designed to be a sturdy truck transmission so it can take whatever you throw at it.
 
  #9  
Old 12-12-2012, 11:40 PM
FORDF250HDXLT's Avatar
FORDF250HDXLT
FORDF250HDXLT is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wabanaki Indian Territory
Posts: 18,724
Likes: 0
Received 37 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by 351W1085
Hey Everyone, I have a 94 F-150 5.8 E4OD 4x4. My auto trans is going bad and I was thinking
careful.many people think their E40D's are going bad,when in fact the issue causing what seems to be major is simply caused by something small with it's electrical system.
can you describe the symptoms and or any codes your getting?

Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
I hate my M5OD
yeah,i don't miss that thing at all.last f150.
 
  #10  
Old 12-13-2012, 12:58 AM
rangergirl94's Avatar
rangergirl94
rangergirl94 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Geneva,Ohio
Posts: 656
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Blown349
Probably?, What's an M5OD rated for? There is a reason Ford did not put it behind a 351W and the torque it can deliver. Torque input is different than what you tow.
I say probably because I have never had one behind a 5.8 and I only talk facts I know mine held up to win the truck pull it seen tq that day
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
94 Green Beast
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
9
06-21-2011 09:58 AM
bmxstreet15
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
4
05-13-2009 07:13 AM
Jrock909
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
6
02-09-2008 12:05 AM
1yamman350
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
3
08-22-2003 03:40 PM
pcman
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
2
08-20-2003 12:31 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 94 E4OD to M5OD Swap?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:12 AM.