I have been selling Ford Parts for 25 years. The intrusion of Chinese replacement parts into the marketplace has been pushed for years by your insurance companies. Ford Motor Company makes a decent profit on OE replacement parts. The Ford dealers on the other-hand barely get by when being forced to compete for sales to collision shops. It will be interesting how the Chinese manufacturers and insurance companies that mandate collision shops to use those low quality parts react to aluminum replacement parts.
700 lbs of weight reduction is huge. This will defiantly help fuel millage. How about a F100 based on the Euro Ranger using aluminum panels with Ecoboost and Duratorque for power? Can you say midsized truck that gets 30+ mpg? I would spring for a new truck if that is possible.
I would also welcome diesel power in an F150. I'm not against lighter weight body panels whether it be aluminum, carbon fiber or whatever. But I am against any further price hikes. And it can't be blamed on over-paid assembly line workers, either. Top pay these days for a line worker is under $20 per hour. Even with wage and benefit reductions for the bulk of Ford employees they raise prices annually. That would lead one to believe that the upper echelon management is really doing well in the pay department if compensation is blamed for the prices. As a share holder I can say with some degree of certainty that the shareholders are doing alright, but they're not getting rich off the profits. So whatever direction Ford goes it is imperative to hold the line on prices if they want sales.
In theory...this is good. Fuel efficiency should increase and payload should increase too. We will have to wait and see. Im ok with the aluminum panels. Harder to repair though (think dent removal) and that could be problematic.
Due to the increase in safety needs these trucks have become pigs. Im all for something to reduce the weight and gain some relief on a weekly basis at the pump.
Dent removal is actually easier on aluminum than steel. Just make sure the tech doing it is using a rounded more blunt tool as opposed to a sharp point like what is used for steel.
Hi guys I leave in Greece, was born in the U.S.A and love ford trucks but gas price per gallon is 6.20 $ in Greece. I think that a diesel power f150 is mast have and now is
The best time to do it with fuel prices rising all the time!! There was a engine made from ford 4.4 lt turbo diesel and it wend to land rover I think?
I will be the first to buy the diesel f150 if it comes to the market!!!!!!!!!!
Everybody here drives small Japanese made trucks that run with diesel fuel. The Europe ford makes a ranger truck also small but with diesel engine.
P.s Japanese can go back to making sushi for all I care!!!!!!!
The 3.7L trucks are getting a solid 24-25 MPG's and come standard on the F-150. No matter what kind of mileage you get from a diesel, the MPG's will never pay back the outrageous initial cost and maintenance.
I would personally love to have a small 4 cylinder diesel in a sedan or Ranger that gets awesome MPG's. VW diesels of 10-12 years ago were achieving nearly 50 MPG's on the hwy, now many car gassers are getting 40+ and for much less money.
If aluminum or composite becomes the norm then it will eventually be widely accepted.
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i would like think that more then few hundred people will go to a small full size truck like the f150 with a diesel engine!!!!!!
Maybe a few hundred was an extreme opinion, I think lots of people would buy them.
I just don't think they would be a major success.
To successfully throw a diesel into an f150, it would have to be in the 250- 300 hp area to not grenade transmissions from tourque.
That isn't impressive power by todays standards.
Do you think anyone would really spend the cash on the diesel when the ecoboost f150 would easily out perform it?
They could push more power, but then they'd start needing beefier parts in the truck, at which point they'd be closing the gap between the 150 and 250/350 trucks. Not going to happen.
So, my question is; how many people would really buy an f150 with 250 hp that costs probably an easy 6000$ on top of the ecoboost that outperforms in power by a landslide?
I'm well aware that 250 hp would drive and tow fine, but are people going to buy it?
Whos going to pay thousands of dollars extra to buy a lower powered truck, that will likely not get good in town mileage because of stop and go failed regen's?
Anyone who tows lots would just get a super duty, so the only market appeal would be to the same crowd as the ecoboost- mileage and occasional towing... problem is that the ecoboost is already serving those guys.
I'd have to imagine that if this ever even became a thought, it would be fords 6.7 cut down to a v6.
I am putting a dt360 engine in a 2008 f250:
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