Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > 2009 - 2014 F150
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


2009 - 2014 F150 Discuss the 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Ford F150 SPONSORED BY:

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #61  
Old 08-16-2012, 02:32 AM
chris95eddie chris95eddie is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: greece
Posts: 5
chris95eddie is starting off with a positive reputation.
Yes that will so cool!!!!!!! fuel economy is a mast have to day!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 08-16-2012, 02:35 AM
chris95eddie chris95eddie is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: greece
Posts: 5
chris95eddie is starting off with a positive reputation.
Also diesel engine is something that the f150 series needs
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 08-16-2012, 06:30 AM
shortride's Avatar
shortride shortride is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: 46th State USA
Posts: 584
shortride is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris95eddie View Post
Also diesel engine is something that the f150 series needs
Ford talked about making an optional diesel engine starting in 2009 but it never happened.

I think Ford making truck panels out of lighter weight material is inevitable.
__________________
2010 XLT 4.6 Screw
Vietnam Combat Veteran - 11F40
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 08-16-2012, 08:29 AM
Parts Jimmy's Avatar
Parts Jimmy Parts Jimmy is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 191
Parts Jimmy has a good reputation on FTE.Parts Jimmy has a good reputation on FTE.
I have been selling Ford Parts for 25 years. The intrusion of Chinese replacement parts into the marketplace has been pushed for years by your insurance companies. Ford Motor Company makes a decent profit on OE replacement parts. The Ford dealers on the other-hand barely get by when being forced to compete for sales to collision shops. It will be interesting how the Chinese manufacturers and insurance companies that mandate collision shops to use those low quality parts react to aluminum replacement parts.

700 lbs of weight reduction is huge. This will defiantly help fuel millage. How about a F100 based on the Euro Ranger using aluminum panels with Ecoboost and Duratorque for power? Can you say midsized truck that gets 30+ mpg? I would spring for a new truck if that is possible.

I am all for aluminum! Bring it on.
__________________
2000 Ford F350 4x4 Crewcab SRW
7.3 PSD, 4" MBRP Exhaust, DP Tuned,
Finned OE Diff Cover, Motorcraft AIS, Timbren Overloads, Bilstein 5100 Shocks, Hella 700FF Driving Lights, Dieselsite Coolant Filter, Bellowed Up-pipes, EBPV Deleted
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 08-16-2012, 05:36 PM
Greg B Greg B is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,498
Greg B has a good reputation on FTE.Greg B has a good reputation on FTE.Greg B has a good reputation on FTE.
I would also welcome diesel power in an F150. I'm not against lighter weight body panels whether it be aluminum, carbon fiber or whatever. But I am against any further price hikes. And it can't be blamed on over-paid assembly line workers, either. Top pay these days for a line worker is under $20 per hour. Even with wage and benefit reductions for the bulk of Ford employees they raise prices annually. That would lead one to believe that the upper echelon management is really doing well in the pay department if compensation is blamed for the prices. As a share holder I can say with some degree of certainty that the shareholders are doing alright, but they're not getting rich off the profits. So whatever direction Ford goes it is imperative to hold the line on prices if they want sales.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 08-17-2012, 02:11 AM
parkland parkland is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,775
parkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud of
You know what the problem is here?
The problem is people "wanting things" that don't sell.

So many people want electric cars- how many sell? Barely any.
And the newer designs deliver very well, they just don't sell.

Diesel ranger or f150? Great idea, except north american customers are hell bent on power and performance.

I think a diesel f150 could get a solid 25 MPG, and a diesel ranger, 30 MPG.

You'd have to go with 100-200 hp diesels though, not 300-400 hp.

Will anyone buy a 200 hp truck that gets awesome mileage?
__________________
I am putting a dt360 engine in a 2008 f250:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...0-project.html
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 08-17-2012, 02:16 AM
RoughIdle's Avatar
RoughIdle RoughIdle is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NW Iowa
Posts: 76
RoughIdle is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCDavis View Post
In theory...this is good. Fuel efficiency should increase and payload should increase too. We will have to wait and see. Im ok with the aluminum panels. Harder to repair though (think dent removal) and that could be problematic.

Due to the increase in safety needs these trucks have become pigs. Im all for something to reduce the weight and gain some relief on a weekly basis at the pump.
Dent removal is actually easier on aluminum than steel. Just make sure the tech doing it is using a rounded more blunt tool as opposed to a sharp point like what is used for steel.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 08-17-2012, 02:41 AM
parkland parkland is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,775
parkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud of
It better be easier, these things would get way more dents.
__________________
I am putting a dt360 engine in a 2008 f250:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...0-project.html
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 08-17-2012, 03:16 AM
chris95eddie chris95eddie is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: greece
Posts: 5
chris95eddie is starting off with a positive reputation.
f150 diesel

Hi guys I leave in Greece, was born in the U.S.A and love ford trucks but gas price per gallon is 6.20 $ in Greece. I think that a diesel power f150 is mast have and now is
The best time to do it with fuel prices rising all the time!! There was a engine made from ford 4.4 lt turbo diesel and it wend to land rover I think?
I will be the first to buy the diesel f150 if it comes to the market!!!!!!!!!!
Everybody here drives small Japanese made trucks that run with diesel fuel. The Europe ford makes a ranger truck also small but with diesel engine.


P.s Japanese can go back to making sushi for all I care!!!!!!!

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 08-17-2012, 04:26 AM
parkland parkland is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,775
parkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud of
The diesel engine used overseas does not meet emission levels in north america.

We already have a 6.7 400 hp diesel, and thats what people want.

I wish there was a low power high mileage diesel available, but who is really going to buy it? a few hundred people?
__________________
I am putting a dt360 engine in a 2008 f250:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...0-project.html
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 08-17-2012, 06:28 AM
tseekins's Avatar
tseekins tseekins is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 20,028
tseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputation
The 3.7L trucks are getting a solid 24-25 MPG's and come standard on the F-150. No matter what kind of mileage you get from a diesel, the MPG's will never pay back the outrageous initial cost and maintenance.

I would personally love to have a small 4 cylinder diesel in a sedan or Ranger that gets awesome MPG's. VW diesels of 10-12 years ago were achieving nearly 50 MPG's on the hwy, now many car gassers are getting 40+ and for much less money.

If aluminum or composite becomes the norm then it will eventually be widely accepted.
__________________
Tim
SCPO United States Coast Guard Retired
2011 F-150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost
2010 Ford Focus
2004 Expedition XLT 4x2

FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 08-17-2012, 06:51 AM
parkland parkland is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,775
parkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud of
What ever happened to the good old days, thicker body metal, simpler mechanics, lower but reliable power.

We really haven't come to far, I mean what does a 6.7 2012 powerstroke get for mileage?
How about a 1988 7.3 IDI diesel?

Not much difference at all.
__________________
I am putting a dt360 engine in a 2008 f250:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...0-project.html
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 08-17-2012, 06:53 AM
chris95eddie chris95eddie is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: greece
Posts: 5
chris95eddie is starting off with a positive reputation.
f150disel

i would like think that more then few hundred people will go to a small full size truck like the f150 with a diesel engine!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 08-17-2012, 08:26 AM
Lady Fitzgerald Lady Fitzgerald is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Tempe, AZ, USA, Earth
Posts: 234
Lady Fitzgerald is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Why is everyone carrying on about aluminum F150s when Ford has denied the rumor?
__________________
Jeannie

'08 F150 XLT Screw, 5.4L, 3.74 rear, Leer 100RCC cap with side tool boxes
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 08-17-2012, 08:31 AM
parkland parkland is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,775
parkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud ofparkland has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris95eddie View Post
i would like think that more then few hundred people will go to a small full size truck like the f150 with a diesel engine!!!!!!
Maybe a few hundred was an extreme opinion, I think lots of people would buy them.
I just don't think they would be a major success.

To successfully throw a diesel into an f150, it would have to be in the 250- 300 hp area to not grenade transmissions from tourque.
That isn't impressive power by todays standards.

Do you think anyone would really spend the cash on the diesel when the ecoboost f150 would easily out perform it?

They could push more power, but then they'd start needing beefier parts in the truck, at which point they'd be closing the gap between the 150 and 250/350 trucks. Not going to happen.

So, my question is; how many people would really buy an f150 with 250 hp that costs probably an easy 6000$ on top of the ecoboost that outperforms in power by a landslide?

I'm well aware that 250 hp would drive and tow fine, but are people going to buy it?

Whos going to pay thousands of dollars extra to buy a lower powered truck, that will likely not get good in town mileage because of stop and go failed regen's?

Anyone who tows lots would just get a super duty, so the only market appeal would be to the same crowd as the ecoboost- mileage and occasional towing... problem is that the ecoboost is already serving those guys.

I'd have to imagine that if this ever even became a thought, it would be fords 6.7 cut down to a v6.
__________________
I am putting a dt360 engine in a 2008 f250:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...0-project.html
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 08:31 AM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OT. Ford tests Aluminum truck bodys sand_fiend 1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel 4 06-07-2014 09:16 AM
I knew it... sammy77 Super Duty & Heavy Duty 35 02-01-2014 12:20 PM
Truck of the year! BEAST428 2009 - 2014 F150 26 12-20-2011 12:41 AM
The F-150 attracted 473,933 buyers this year, making it the No. 1-selling vehicle for freirefishing General Automotive Discussion 10 12-22-2008 11:31 AM
Ford recalls 600,000 5.4 F-150s 02Taco Ford vs The Competition 21 05-19-2008 02:17 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > 2009 - 2014 F150

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


Participate In The Forums

Create new posts and participate in discussions. It's free!

Sign Up »





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup