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Old 07-26-2012, 11:54 AM
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fuel pump question

I am in the process of buying a 05 6.0 and it needs a bigger fuel pump. It has a bigger turbo and 190cc injectors. I was looking at the air dog raptor 150 gph pump. In wondering if that's going to put out enough fuel for the truck or do I need one that puts out more fuel? It has approx 700hp. Thanks
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Any advice anyone?
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you need a regulated return and get rid of the Dead Head system it has

Air Dog or Fass or something I beleive the guys use

do a search on here should get some good info on it
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I am in the process of buying a 05 6.0 and it needs a bigger fuel pump. It has a bigger turbo and 190cc injectors. I was looking at the air dog raptor 150 gph pump. In wondering if that's going to put out enough fuel for the truck or do I need one that puts out more fuel? It has approx 700hp. Thanks
Driven Diesel 6.0L Regulated Return Kit

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that is a lot of fuel.... 700 hp... ?

how'd it manage to run with the OEM setup?
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I am in the process of buying a 05 6.0 and it needs a bigger fuel pump. It has a bigger turbo and 190cc injectors. I was looking at the air dog raptor 150 gph pump. In wondering if that's going to put out enough fuel for the truck or do I need one that puts out more fuel? It has approx 700hp. Thanks
I'd like a few more specifics on the turbo and injectors before I make a recommendation on fuel. How did you arrive at the 700 hp number and is that flywheel or rear wheel HP?
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I would say use extreme caution buying anything that was previously modified.

There could be alot of abuse to that engine hidden behind those shiny parts.

If you want to build a rig find a clean stock or at least mostly stock truck and start there.

You may be happy with the truck and its performance at that level.

Extreme mods do extreme (expensive) damage.

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Extreme mods do extreme (expensive) damage.

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I did a little reading, and 600 hp appears to need 250 cc injectors and a big shot of nitrous. Fire ringed heads, but the bottom end appears up to it. No one was really talking about an honest 700 hp, but you would definitely need a lot of turbo, and probably bottom end work.

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the technical term is called "tinky.... tinky.... BANG!"
Good advice to live by
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Yea 700 hp is a round about number. at the wheel its probably around 550 at most. its actually belongs to a good buddy of mine and i have seen the whole life of the truck and its been taken care of. it runs fine with the oem. but you gotta drive it like an 80 year old grandma or it will blow injectors after a couple months. so its sounds like after doing some research im going to need a bigger fuel pump and regulated return? correct me if im wrong. i also appreciate the information everyone.
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also im obviously going to need bigger fuel lines to accomodate for the bigger fuel pump.
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also im obviously going to need bigger fuel lines to accomodate for the bigger fuel pump.
'm kay.... you can throw money at this all day long....
as has been said here, one of the stronger 6.0 participants
here is tex, at 500 hp. he recently posted what he's done
to run 200k miles without a tinky, tinky, bang. it's substantial.
the tranny mods were $5k.

you might want to talk to him.

let's put this in perspective. a diesel putting out
100 horsepower per liter in a street driver is a bit nuts.

i have a sport bike i enjoy. it's 1,300 CC, and 180 RWHP. to get that is
no small feat of engineering, and part of it requires the vehicle be moving
above 150 mph, as the static head intake pressure at that speed is 6 pounds
boost from the air intakes, and it takes above 9,000 rpm to do it. it won't
produce that on a dyno... maybe 130-140 on a dyno without the airflow.

so... 100 hp per liter, more or less. you want to get 15% more than that
from a light truck engine with a stock long block? with stock crank,
rods, and pistons?

how long do you expect this "daily driver" to last?

go look at tex's build sheet, and add all parts he has that you don't.
that's been proven for 500 hp.
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Its got a suncoast tranny and worked pistons and aftermarket crank. its got everything it needs minues the fuel system. all im trying to do is get info on the fuel system. i know motors and transmission decently i just dont know much about fuel systems.
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Most of the people crusing this forum run mostly stock (or lightly tuned) trucks for towing or various other work. While I am not saying you won't get the answer here... you may want to consider posting this thread in either the offroad (they modify trucks a lot) or the fuel section of FTE. Either way Good Luck. One of the things I love about trucks is their versatility. One of the things I hate about humans is the way they screw up their perfectly good trucks
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Its got a suncoast tranny and worked pistons and aftermarket crank. its got everything it needs minues the fuel system. all im trying to do is get info on the fuel system. i know motors and transmission decently i just dont know much about fuel systems.
Where did the crankshaft come from? I've never seen or heard of an issue with the stock crank and I know of one with 1000+ HP (rear wheels). I'd also like to see the dyno sheets for the horsepower or is it just an estimate? What tuner and whose tuning is it running?

Metmop: There are more than a few of us running (or have run) some fairly heavy modifications on the 6.0.
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