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Old 06-22-2012, 07:04 PM
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Lifting my 86 150

Something I should've done a long time ago My truck is an 86 F150 Flareside. 302 EFI, auto, 4x4, D44 front twin I beam, 8.8 open rear, 3.55 gears. Right now I am running 31" junk tires I got for free on 16 x 7 Cragars.

I want to lift the truck to clear 33 or 35" tires. Just a couple inches will do. I installed 2" spacers under the front coil springs. It gave me at least 2 inches. Now instead of it being raked, it's sagging lol, so I need to lift the rear to match. It has 2" factory blocks in the rear now. I am wondering, what should I do to gain 1 to 1 1/2" in the rear? 1" would make it perfectly level, 1 1/2 would give me a little room to let it sag for towing/hauling... Add a leafs? Replace the factory blocks with 4"?

Okay, back to the front... now the front end looks retarded, hahha... as I expected. The front tires are buckled in when viewed from the front - waaay positive camber, and it looks like it is toed in as well. Do I need to install some drop brackets for the radius arms now? How can I get it aligned back correctly?

I am not crazy into off roading... this is more for looks than function. But, that's not to say I wont get a wild hair every once in a while. I am not a real stickler for ride quality either.

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Old 06-22-2012, 07:41 PM
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no the radius arm's should be fine with 2" of lift, but the reason your tires are toed like that is you do need to put in a drop mount for the I beam I believe there referred to as a pivot mount or something to that effect...(drops the other side of the axle where it bolts at to match the lift you put on the coil..)

something like this kit would work and it has all the drop mounts and you can get it with rear springs instead of blocks and also has new coil springs so you can get ride of those rubber pads....

Ford Suspension Lift Kits

That one is only 2.5" if you want 4" or what ever just look around its easy to find
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Thanks dude. I looked into it... Like you said, I learned that the drop brackets lower the front axle carriers for more camber. And they have cam bolts for camber angle adjustment. Forgive any inaccurate terminology... Anyway, I am trying to do this relatively inexpensively. I will continue to upgrade it one piece at a time. I ordered the drop brackets and a pair of add a leafs for the rear. That will get it higher and level to clear bigger tires. Don't worry, it'll get all the right stuff eventually. Just not affordable to do all at once. Thanks for the help man.
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totally understandable, atleast your not trying to put lift blocks on a front axle


(yes im aware yours is coil springs, was just pointing out your way really isnt all that bad!)
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:37 AM
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Thanks man! Glad to hear I'm not that crazy. I've had this truck since I was 16. My first truck. Very sentimental... been in the family forever... very special to me. Finally doing some long overdue work to it
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Not a problem! and Flare sides are just plain cool in my opinion!

my opinion maybe bias since i have one though
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Yes they are! I have always thought they look so cool with a mild lift on them, ~2-4" with 33-35" tires.

Right now the front tires measure ~7.5" from the tops of the tires up to the fenders. In the rear, ~6.5". The rear add a leafs are supposed to add 2". Hopefully it looks cool with this amount of lift front and rear, since I guess it will have a slight rake to it.

I always thought level lifted trucks looked kind of dumb any time they're hauling or towing and the rear is sagging, so my ~1" higher rear will be good for that. I also want to install air shocks so I can pump up the rear when needed.
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just out of curiosity where did you find the drop pivot mounts for sale by themselves? only place i've found was j.c. whitney and they only carried the 2-2.5'' drops. it always seemed more logical to me to buy a 4'' economy lift kit to get the 4'' drops and buy a set of 4'' rear springs down the road if the add a leaf or block in the cheap kit wasn't what you wanted because those individual drop brackets cost damn near as much as the whole economy lift kits out there iirc.
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I shopped around for quite a while. I found them at SuspensionConnection.com for $150 or so and they wanted like 20 bucks for shipping. I got the Tuff Country part # and searched around even more, then bought them from BellOffRoad.com. They had them for $130, and they had the rear springs for $71, a good 5 bucks cheaper, and since I spent over $200, free shipping! A couple hundred bucks... The 2" spacers I got for the front coils were 50 bucks on ebay. So, $250 bucks. I will keep adding to it for improvements - shocks, steering stabilizer, etc...
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So, I got everything installed... Front 2" coil spacers, 2.5" drop down brackets for the front beams, and helper leaf springs in the rear. The stance looks good. It's a good few inches taller and could definitely clear 33" tires pretty comfortably now.

Trouble is... it rides really crappy. I figured the ride quality would be less, but not this bad. The front end alignment is way off. I set the toe, but you can look and tell the camber is super negative on both sides. Are the stock upper ball joints adjustable from the factory, or do I need some special adjustable ones? I am sure it will hold the road a lot better once the camber is straightened out.
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they make adjustable camber cams. you may or may not have them in there already. the only way to tell is to take the camber cams out and see if they are set degree or adjustable.
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Hey guys. It's been a while, but I am back at this project now.

Quick recap: I installed 2" spacers and the smaller axle drop brackets in the front, and added a leaf to the rear for about 2" front and 3" rear lift.

The front tires have a ton of positive camber. When I lift up on the front bumper, you can clearly see the tops of the tires going out and the negative camber diminishing as the suspension flexes upwards. To me this suggests that if I lift it another inch or two, the camber should be closer to 0*. Has anyone dealt with this before and can verify this?

I am trying to do this as cheaply and painlessly as possible, lol. Summit has 1-2 inch lift springs for 75 bucks. These combined with the 2" spacers should yield 3-4" gross lift. And like I said, I have the smaller axle drop brackets. I think this will get the camber much closer, then I can dial it in with the camber cams in the upper ball joints if need be.
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