Fifth wheel for F-150?
#1
#2
nope. Well I think there maybe something lite enough out there to do the job if local I would not recommend it.
When you take into account the king pin wt of a 5er that goes against your payload and the ratings of your axles, brakes, cooling capacity of the motor and much much more you will not be happy or safe.
F250/F350 is where you need to be for this to work.
Best way imho about this idea is to shop for the 5er of your choice. Decide what you will get and then shop for the truck that will do the job.
Although you are spending more money up front you will be able to enjoy the adventure with clean underwear.
Hope that helps a bit.
When you take into account the king pin wt of a 5er that goes against your payload and the ratings of your axles, brakes, cooling capacity of the motor and much much more you will not be happy or safe.
F250/F350 is where you need to be for this to work.
Best way imho about this idea is to shop for the 5er of your choice. Decide what you will get and then shop for the truck that will do the job.
Although you are spending more money up front you will be able to enjoy the adventure with clean underwear.
Hope that helps a bit.
#3
nope. Well I think there maybe something lite enough out there to do the job if local I would not recommend it.
When you take into account the king pin wt of a 5er that goes against your payload and the ratings of your axles, brakes, cooling capacity of the motor and much much more you will not be happy or safe.
F250/F350 is where you need to be for this to work.
Best way imho about this idea is to shop for the 5er of your choice. Decide what you will get and then shop for the truck that will do the job.
Although you are spending more money up front you will be able to enjoy the adventure with clean underwear.
Hope that helps a bit.
When you take into account the king pin wt of a 5er that goes against your payload and the ratings of your axles, brakes, cooling capacity of the motor and much much more you will not be happy or safe.
F250/F350 is where you need to be for this to work.
Best way imho about this idea is to shop for the 5er of your choice. Decide what you will get and then shop for the truck that will do the job.
Although you are spending more money up front you will be able to enjoy the adventure with clean underwear.
Hope that helps a bit.
#4
I respect your opinion. I figured that was gonna be the response. Getting a new truck is out of the question considering I just got this one. I will just stick to bumper towables. I definately don't have to have a fifth wheel, but I do know I can't go any longer in our little popup.
You will also want the weight dist. type hitch.
Does your F150 have the TBC(trailer brake controller)? If not then you will want that as well.
F150 is a good truck but a 5er will not be a good choice that's all.
#5
#6
There are some models of 5th wheel campers on the market that are light enough for you to pull, but not many. And with a 5.5ft bed, you are going to want a sliding hitch. The good ones aren't cheap.
Then there's the temptation once the hitch is there to see what the truck can REALLY handle...
Then there's the temptation once the hitch is there to see what the truck can REALLY handle...
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#8
Yeah I think I am gonna stick with a bumper pull. It seems to be more suitable for my equipment. After this pup, anything is gonna be a huge upgrade in functionality and space.
#10
Carolinaborn82,
Check out this guys posts. He did it the right way.
Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans - View Profile: Platinum_Sean
Check out this guys posts. He did it the right way.
Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans - View Profile: Platinum_Sean
#11
I know you said you just got this truck, but have you considered Craigslist? There's OBS dually trucks AND older 5th wheel combos for 10 grand all over the place.
When I found out my father in law paid 11 grand for his 5th wheel (to be pulled by his 1/2 ton Ram) I literally asked him what was he thinking. That's when I looked on Craigslist to find a better deal. And sure enough, within 5 minutes I found 3 truck and trailer combinations (2 Fords and a Dodge, trailers 24-27 feet) under 10 grand.
When I found out my father in law paid 11 grand for his 5th wheel (to be pulled by his 1/2 ton Ram) I literally asked him what was he thinking. That's when I looked on Craigslist to find a better deal. And sure enough, within 5 minutes I found 3 truck and trailer combinations (2 Fords and a Dodge, trailers 24-27 feet) under 10 grand.
#12
Carolinaborn82,
Check out this guys posts. He did it the right way.
Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans - View Profile: Platinum_Sean
Check out this guys posts. He did it the right way.
Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans - View Profile: Platinum_Sean
This link goes to a very nice looking rig, but I was looking for loaded axle weights and pin weights on that rig he has. I do not see any of that type of information in his "garage" section? I see that he has superspring helpers, which would account for the proper frame slope (no rear squating under load) but do nothing to add even one pound of ANY actaul or usable axle capacity, only adjust ride height.
Is that 5th really that light that with 15% or so weight on the pin, a full load of fuel, his normal load of gear and people in the truck that he is not over on the 1/2 ton rear GAWR? Even on the SD trucks, with there much heavier rated rear axles, the SRW configuration rear axle capacity seems to be the single largest limiting factor
If so, then I would say he has done a absolutly fantastic job of matching a truck and trailer!
If not, then I would say he has done a fantastic job of making a overloaded rig "appear" safe.
David
#13
I only bring this up as the OP needs to be thinking about all this information and axle loading, even if he is bumper towing. The OP has asked the right questions, and every post has been informative and great.
This link goes to a very nice looking rig, but I was looking for loaded axle weights and pin weights on that rig he has. I do not see any of that type of information in his "garage" section? I see that he has superspring helpers, which would account for the proper frame slope (no rear squating under load) but do nothing to add even one pound of ANY actaul or usable axle capacity, only adjust ride height.
Is that 5th really that light that with 15% or so weight on the pin, a full load of fuel, his normal load of gear and people in the truck that he is not over on the 1/2 ton rear GAWR? Even on the SD trucks, with there much heavier rated rear axles, the SRW configuration rear axle capacity seems to be the single largest limiting factor
If so, then I would say he has done a absolutly fantastic job of matching a truck and trailer!
If not, then I would say he has done a fantastic job of making a overloaded rig "appear" safe.
David
This link goes to a very nice looking rig, but I was looking for loaded axle weights and pin weights on that rig he has. I do not see any of that type of information in his "garage" section? I see that he has superspring helpers, which would account for the proper frame slope (no rear squating under load) but do nothing to add even one pound of ANY actaul or usable axle capacity, only adjust ride height.
Is that 5th really that light that with 15% or so weight on the pin, a full load of fuel, his normal load of gear and people in the truck that he is not over on the 1/2 ton rear GAWR? Even on the SD trucks, with there much heavier rated rear axles, the SRW configuration rear axle capacity seems to be the single largest limiting factor
If so, then I would say he has done a absolutly fantastic job of matching a truck and trailer!
If not, then I would say he has done a fantastic job of making a overloaded rig "appear" safe.
David
I think you pretty well nailed the issue in that it is simply not possible to tell from a picture what axle weight are. I think some folks really understand the issues involved and do a great job of matching their tow vehicle to their load, but working often on dealers lots, I can assure you the overwhelming majority go by a rule that seems to be, if I can hook onto it, I can tow it.
I always tell folks when you are towing, it is not enough that we keep ourselves safe. I think we all have an obligation to keep others on the road safe as well.
Steve
#14
Hi David,
I think you pretty well nailed the issue in that it is simply not possible to tell from a picture what axle weight are. I think some folks really understand the issues involved and do a great job of matching their tow vehicle to their load, but working often on dealers lots, I can assure you the overwhelming majority go by a rule that seems to be, if I can hook onto it, I can tow it.
I always tell folks when you are towing, it is not enough that we keep ourselves safe. I think we all have an obligation to keep others on the road safe as well.
Steve
I think you pretty well nailed the issue in that it is simply not possible to tell from a picture what axle weight are. I think some folks really understand the issues involved and do a great job of matching their tow vehicle to their load, but working often on dealers lots, I can assure you the overwhelming majority go by a rule that seems to be, if I can hook onto it, I can tow it.
I always tell folks when you are towing, it is not enough that we keep ourselves safe. I think we all have an obligation to keep others on the road safe as well.
Steve