Agreed. I searched for completed listings for that truck on ebay and found none. I did see some for F100's and they were all over the board, from $1300 to $5500. The one I am purchasing is in better condition than the one that sold for $1300 and the $5000+ truck was a SWB and looked like a fresh restoration. I'm not unhappy with the agreed upon price.

so far....

hope it stays that way.

 

I just bought my deceased cousins 1968 Ranger for 500 bucks, all orignal one owner with 87K on the clock. He died in 2002, widow still had it, but I was unaware until I spoke with her 3 weeks ago.

Here in LA LA Land, you can buy these trucks cheap, many are rust free (excepting possibly the drip rails). The demand is slight, the economy stinks, so they are only worth what peeps are willing to pay for them.

You think you bought an old truck, but what you really bought is a hobby, and hobbies tend to be expensive.

Wait until you take a look-see in some of the repro parts sellers catalogs. You'll find out in a NY minute the prices aren't as cheap as they are for Der Fuehrer and Ferry Porsche's peoples car.

My guess is after owning 337 vehicles since 1956, you'll sink 3 grand into it within a short time. It won't look much different (if it does at all), than it does now.

 

you may be right.... I can still walk away. Haven't paid yet as we are to meet tomorrow morning....

 

I'm convinced that a lot of these guys on Ebay base their starting price on the NADA low retail value, and most of them never get a single bid. Others seem to base their starting price on what they have invested in the restoration, likewise unrealistic. Me personally, if I were inclined (or able) to spend premium prices, would rather spend more on a "survivor" than a restoration. it seems a lot of sellers can't seem to grasp this concept. Or maybe I'm just wrong about what is more valuable.

 

Pics help.. there's that saying about 1000 words.

It doesn't appear beat up so I'd prolly step up to the $1800 to $2200 range.

In terms of the rust on the fender, it's prolly got a mulch pile behind the fender plus the air vent bowls/housings (whatever you call'em) are likely packed with leaf litter. Relatively easy to clean out.. Ford provided an access plug that very few owners ever use to rinse out.

The paint appears preservable. Is it just dirty? A cut and buff could bring back some shine. It also appears it had the three-legged West Coast mirrors at some point... the pic is a little small but I think I can just make out the forward 'steady arm' mounting holes near the door's leading edge.

Btw, does it have a rear "contour" bumper? If so, the stock brackets are hard to find since bumpers were optional and most wanted to tow and therefore led them to buy a dock (heavy and ugly IMO) bumper.

 

Agreed on all points. I far and away prefer a preserved original which is what this appears to be. I could search for the secondary tank and replace it and fix the few things I can immediately find and drive it happily.

Thanks for the comments. I will probably stick with the original agreement.... Hopefully I'm not making a big mistake, but I think finding one for $500 is highly unlikely....

I do believe it's original paint. I think a cut and buff might bring it back to bare metal though.... The green is starting to show through white in spots but overall isn't too bad. You have good eyes: It did have three legged mirrors on it at one point. I can see the holes are plugged with little plastic plugs that have become brittle and there are shadows where the paint isn't quite as faded where they mounted to the door. Would they have been original? I don't know the origin of the small ones currently in place. Would like to find the larger ones and replace them if not too much.

The rear bumper isn't a step bumper. It's painted white and resembles the front bumper but of course the front one is chromed. It has been bent at the left and just touched the bedside. Looks like it could be straightened and the bracket appears okay. Have to wait and see....

 

I am hoping this won't be the case.... I don't believe I spent that much on my '78 and I owned it 10+ years.... I replace the radiator, drive shaft support bearing, steering gear and all the brakes except hard line just to get it driveable.... I had it painted (it was 7 different colors when I got it), replaced the 351W, my largest expense at $1100, with a rebuild. Got a pass through rear window for it and replaced the wheels when I had it painted. Also the diff quit and I found a guy that sold rebuild chunks while I lived in TX. I rebuilt the rear end out to the axle bearings. First drive in the rain I spun it 180 degrees..... Apparently the trac loc had been broken since I had it because I never turned both rear tires at the same time before...

I really hope I can simply maintain this truck and drive it on errands....

Here's hoping!

 

I missed this post entirely...

Agreed about NADA values. I tried to look up closed auction prices on ebay but didn't get much help due to lack of listings.

Was the reference about side mouldings for me to check into? They are all present....

The only thing I have to go on in regards to deciding if it's a camper spl or not are internet pics.... I know little about these hence the query. Doesn't make sense that someone would add those emblems to this truck given its history.... Was the tool box you reference an external access box, or was it inside the bed? There is a tool box permanently installed inside the bed behind the passenger seat but I don't know if it was a factory job.

Regarding lying sellers you forgot preachers. This guy's a preacher....
I am not a trusting individual. I agree the seller is likely lying about when the speedo and gas gauge quit working, and he may have said "recently" not yesterday. Neither seem like expensive fixes to me. Indeed I fixed the cable on the old '78 and it was a cheap fix.

Understood about the speedo rolling over to zero. I have a hard time believing it is at 165k though because the truck is in pretty good condition.

Apparently it is missing the large mirrors. Is it difficult to find replacements? '67 Galaxie mirrors will have to do for now....

 

2500 isn't a steal but not a rip off either. If the paint is all original that's a plus because you can see what you are getting. Just keep in mind where you want to go with the truck, power steering?, disc brakes?. I've converted a few and know what's involved. Not a huge deal if you know all the parts you need and have them but finding all the correct stuff is always a pain in the butt. You'll have everything but one bracket or pulley then be begging like a hobo on all the forums for one.
I have owned and loved a few dozen bumpsides in the last 30 years. I've only owned 3 67s. They have a lot of one year only parts including those horrid old inside door handles that make a parent shudder.

 

And if you do, the $500 ones usually beat to hell. Mistake? Well, you're doing your homework which is a good thing. Too many times guys jump in with both feet and then realize they've bitten off too much to chew.

Folks bought Camper Specials to accommodate a camper inserted into the bed. The camper cantilevered over the bedsides so wider mirrors were necessary. They were probably original to your rig based on the evidence thus far... moreso than the ones currently installed. The small effort of owner (or previous owners) of installing the plugs may be indicative they gave a hoot about the truck and maybe, just maybe, gave it more care than "normal". Ya might want to ask the current owner if he has'em tucked away somewhere.

I find the three-legged versions in the yard every once in a while and pick 'em when I can... selling 'em supplements this hobby. They are typically listed on E8bay for upwards of $200.... seems the list price factors in supply and demand price plus convenience and the local availability of parts trucks. I mean, if your out in the sticks the potential supply of parts trucks is gonna be low... Live in a metropolitan area? Then chances are there are more of these trucks running around or turned in for recycling (a sad thing sometimes).

One thing I am curious about is the tailgate. As a CS, tailgates were usually removed and stored away because of the camper insert. Some cherry ones pop up for sale every once in a while that were stored in the rafters and never used. Howz the exterior side condition?

Ah, then I can assume you do have the factory contour bumper and, hopefully, the OEM brackets. Hang on to the brackets if you decide to change the rear bumper for different style. Reproductions sell for around $130 so those could recoup a few bucks.

Keep us posted.

 

That's kind of what I was hoping on the price willowbilly. "fair" was the term that came to mind. I have since talked to the fellow this evening. He says he has a lot of receipts from the original owner who took excellent care of the truck. We'll see...

I don't plan on converting anything at this point. Just looking for something I can make Home Depot runs with and haul a VW engine or two about if needed (hard to get those in an Accord trunk...).

Not sure what you mean by the inside door handles.... Guessing they may be considered unsafe?

1967 was an interesting year for VW too. Lots of one year only parts on those bugs....

 

According to the current owner the son of the previous owner (who died and left the truck to be sold with his estate) took good care of everything. Hoping that's the case with this truck. He has receipts for most if not all of the repairs over the years. We'll see tomorrow.... I suppose I might be able to contact the son of the original owner and see if they might be on the farm somewhere if it's still owned by the family, but I think it unlikely. I do live and work in Phoenix so I'll keep my eyes skinned for those three point mirrors.

Tailgate on this is aged similarly to the truck and I assume it wasn't removed and stored. It works perfectly but needs a bit of lube as it squeaks a bit and probably could use an adjustment if there is any way to do that.... It opened and closed just fine.

No plans to change the rear bumper. I dig the painted original. Will look into getting the bend straightened though. My neighbor knows a guy.....

Will definitely post more pics once the deal closes tomorrow.

Thanks!

 

Congrats on the truck. I purchased my 1967 camper special a few months back for $1,600.


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-special.html

So far I have put new tires, rear breaks (which is not a simple job on these 3/4 ton trucks), new alternator and charger, battery and getting the carb rebuilt this week. So far put about an additional 2k into it so far (including the transport fee to Texas from Washington)

All and all very fun truck and enjoying is greatly! I expected the expenses, and it is a hobby and daily driver.

Keep us posted how it goes and put up the VIN.

Cheers!

 

Check out local RV dealers, a source for minty tailgates. Peeps would have slide in the bed campers installed, the tailgates wouldn't close, so off they came, and some peeps left them there.

There's a long time RV dealer on Holt Avenue in Ontario, has a lean to out back stacked with tailgates. Most are for Rangers, 1980/90's trucks, but what are these worth today?

The Ford Dealer (Citrus Motors) was formerly located across the street and west 2 blocks, the RV guy said many of the 'gates came from new trucks they sent there to have campers installed.

vwfreak: Be careful when buying Western aka West Coast mirrors with the 3rd steady-rest arms, because there are THREE different types: 1967/72 F100/350, 1973/79 F100/350 and 1975/91 Econoline.

The door contours are different, so the mirrors won't fit correctly if they're not from 1967/72's.

 

I consider them unsafe. The lock is activated by pushing the lever down so the door is never really locked to the inside and it isn't unheard of to catch a sleeve or cuff on one of those door handles and have it open unexpectedly.
However, I have owned and driven lots of older pickups and never had an issue of someone falling out.