I wanna know if the OP will run the Ecoboost to 220K miles like he did the F-350! Then I will be impressed if the motor holds up!

 

I wouldnt be impressed at all. It would be expected that the Eboost last 200k +.

Which in my opionion the Eboost is just as reliable as every pushrod, cammer v8 before it. It already has a good amount of seat time and hasnt shown a single common issue yet.

 

The same could be said about the 6.7's, 6.2's, 5.0's and the 3.7's. But hey, the ecoboost is an easy target with all that hype and such.

 

You posted in the wrong thread, dude. Close a few internet windows so you don't get lost.
Nothing worse then an antagonist that puts a half-assed effort into his work. Take some pride in what you do.

 

To the OP. 187K miles out of your 4.2L Ford is pretty good service. Perhaps enough to warrant a tip of the hat to another Ford? I would also second looking at the 5.0L. Less costly than the Eco, and plenty of power.
Hard to find a "bad" truck out there.

 

Simple decision:
Ford=AMERICAN owned.
Toyota=FOREIGN owned.
Keep the money in AMERICA. BTW, I have a 2011 5.0 crew cab XLT lariet, awesum truck. Once you hear the rumble of the 5.0, there is no turning back.

 

I'm in the same boat. I really like the new Ford configuration with the Crewcab and 6.5' bed. Toyota doesn't offer the longer bed on the Crewmax.

IMHO the Toyota drive train is much more reliable and Toyota does a much better job with warranty issues and actually fixing the truck. Having owned brand new Fords and Toyota's there's a big difference in service quality. Toyota's just don't go to the shop.

Toyota really shines when it comes to owner care/warranty if needed. I never had a Toyota service advisor tell me they couldn't find anything wrong, Couldn't duplicate or it's normal or designed that way and nothing they can do about it.

I'm still leaning towards the F150 but I'm waiting to see the 2014 Tundra first. They are going to have a complete redesign. The word is there will be no long(6'+) bed on the Crew Max so I'm leaning back to Ford.

I need a real bed on the truck and Toyota continues to build the Tundra in a soccer Mom configuration with the 5' bed.

My two neighbors have Tundra's and three others I work with have newer 2011-2012EB's. Don't believe everything you hear on mileage. From what I've seen/ heard they are really close if not a bit better in the Tundra at freeway speeds of 75 MPH.
Both are close to 13-14 in the city.

The only Truck Ford doesn't compare itself in the mileage tests is the Tundra. I wonder why? Real life driving shows why.

The F150 is a much newer build with all the bells and whistles. The Tundra really needs updating. Very poor Tundra sales make you wonder if it's really even worth it for Toyota to spend all the money to chase the Jones'?

As much as Ford steps on it's own toes you'd think Toyota with the right people in place would build a truck Ford could never touch.

 

If you seriously think the Toyota with the bigger motor gets the same mpg as any of the f-150 motors, you are mistaken. Maybe the 6.2 is comparative gas mileage wise. Drove a tundra for 3 months like a grandma and couldn't get over 15mpg.

It all comes down to me to supporting American companies and not sending our dollars back over seas.

 

While the Tundra may be a capable piece, They are homely imo. And the purchase of a new japanese any vehicle contributes nothing to the IRS. All the profits are taxed Federally by the mother country. At least Ford, GM, & Chrysler new vehicle sales' profits are subject to taxation by the IRS and could help lower the national debt, depending on write-offs and deductions, etc. But the imports will contribute nothing to the Federal debt reduction even though they are suject to state and local taxes. So for me it's a no-brainer. Buy from the domestic companies.

 

Try Charlies Toyota up here....in 05' the Tacoma was redesigned and given the 4.0L 6 spd manual combo....I had to have one so in Dec 04' I snagged a 05' Tacoma TRD loaded to the gills...everything went great until June....my truck got a massive leak...it would rain and my cab would have standing water in it. Figured no biggie I'd take it back in and they'd fix it....nope...took it in, they ran a water hose on the windshield and said there weren't any leaks.... I talked to the service manager and told him if he had 5 minutes I'd take him for a ride through the auto car wash and he could see the water pour in....he didn't have time. Even then I had heard all the great things about Toyota quality and how they stand behind their products so I visited another dealer, this time there was the leak and the transmission had a fetch to it...when cold the syncros didn't seem to work....same deal your truck is fine....no problems here have a great day.

I got rid of the truck after 11 months and never looked back, if they were selling Toyotas for 1/2 the price of GM or Ford I wouldn't even slow down on the way past the dealer to buy a different brand. I've owned 3 new Toyotas...2 Tacomas and 1 Tundra but you won't see me buy another one.

 

And that is incorrect.

Firstly, Tundra is built in Texas, So having a presence in the U.S. Toyota must file a corporate tax return in the US. In fact they would pay higher taxes because the corporation is foreign owned. Moreover, their plant in Texas hires local people and that means jobs. Secondly, if the U.S. don't have a free trade agreement with Japan, which I believe they don't, then there are import duties on vehicles manufactured abroad. Import duties are taxes.

 

No power adjustable pedals available in Tundra. You need "ape arms" to reach some of the stuff on the dash, regardless of where the drivers seat is positioned. Multi-colored dash has a lotta glare.

F150 has fully boxed frame, Tundra frame boxed back as far as end of trans, then 2 different sizes of C channel. Behind rear axle is smaller.

Tundra: DOHC 32 valve all aluminum 5.7L V8 / F150: 5.0L SOHC 16 valve V8.

Tundra assembled in San Antonio TX in a new plant Toyota built for this purpose. F150 assembled in Dearborn at 'newish' Michigan Truck assembly plant.

The first day the Tundra was introduced, I drove to the local dealer and test drove one, then typed a post in the Ford vs the Competition forum voicing my opinion.

At the LA Auto Show, Toyota had a Tundra rolling chassis on display, mounted on a 45 degree mirrored platform, so inspecting the puppy was EZ.

Dunno about Tundra MPG, cuz I don't own one. 5,500 miles accrued on my F150 since 1/22/2012 = Message center lists 14.8 overall MPG, but I live at the top of a very steep hill, so...

It takes a lot more gas to get this 3 ton elephantine behemoth to climb up it, than it takes to drive down it.

And most of the miles have been driven on local roads, not freeways (which are usually clogged up with the usual LA LA Land horrid traffic).

And btw, the Tundra was all new in 2007, while the current F150 is an upgraded version of the 2004. So which one would y'all consider to be newer?

I bought a new 2004 F150 Lariat the first week it was introduced, the brakes were terrible, the trans failed the first week. The dealer I bought it from's service department writers were idiots! I soon went elsewhere.

I had more warranty claims on that terd in two years than all the other vehicles I've purchased new (19) since 1965...combined.

 

Uhm the 5.0 is a dohc aluminum v8...

 

You also have to consider as well that our corporate tax rate is the highest out of all developed countries. If I recall correctly we are at 36%-40%, somewhere round there. You wonder why companies don't like having a base of operations here, start with that.

Now, I'm sure there are loopholes to get the end figure widdled down some, but that's still a relatively high % to start out at.

Also, any company that is globally traded, more then likely has owners throughout the world. Hardly anything is 100% owned by this country or that country anymore.

 

Um, AFAIK, that depends on what vehicles it's installed in. You want DOHC, get the Mustang version it's installed in.

I don't recall which Mustang because no telescopic steering wheel is available (and never has been since day one), Without it, I have zero interest in a Mustang, cuz I haven't a chance of fitting in one.

If I could fit, do you think I'd be driving this tub? Not a chance! The 2008 Fusion I traded in had a tilt/telescopic wheel (and more leg room than a Mustang), why Ford doesn't offer a Mustang with it, I dunno.

When one is 6-5, 325, 67 years old with arthritis and spinal stenosis, one is very limited on what vehicles will fit.

In the 1960's, besides owning other old rolling piles of misery, I owned two Jag XK160's and a MG-TD. I was younger, thinner, more agile and in better health back then.