Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > 2007+ Expedition & Navigator
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


2007+ Expedition & Navigator 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2012, 09:49 AM
07expeblack 07expeblack is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
07expeblack is starting off with a positive reputation.
universal cat getting cel would mil eliminator fix?

A little while back I got a code for the cats so I replaced them and the shop put universals in and I still got the light. The O2 sensors are new. Would a set of mil eliminators make the light go off? I'm pretty new to the "mil eliminator game" so I know little about them. I haven't shopped around for the expedition much but American Muscle has a set for the mustangs, where are you guys getting expedition parts?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2012, 03:20 PM
07expeblack 07expeblack is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
07expeblack is starting off with a positive reputation.
nuttin fellas?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2012, 06:42 AM
07expeblack 07expeblack is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
07expeblack is starting off with a positive reputation.
pretty lame forum boys

The expediton is my wife's car and I'm new to this forum just thought I'd see if I could get a little help on this issue. I'm on several mustang forums and they seem to be a little bit more helpful. I guess because their are DIY guys in the mustang comunity and I suppose there is only so much that can be done to an expediton and the like.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2012, 11:20 AM
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234 berry1234 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,008
berry1234 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
What code exactly did you get? How did you pull the code/codes? Was that the only one?
__________________
1978 F250 Lariat 4x2
2008 Expedition Eddie Bauer 4x2


Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2012, 02:36 PM
07expeblack 07expeblack is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
07expeblack is starting off with a positive reputation.
codes

Had the codes ran two different auto parts stores via OBDII scanner, and again at the muffler shop. I don't know the numeric and phonetics code that the scanner gave because I didn't do it but the parts houses and the muffler shop said it was the catalytic converter gone bad. The muffler shop put on universal cats as stated above and they didn't work. I don't know if he knew that they wouldn't work before he put them on but that is neither here nor there because they are on now and I still have a check engine light. I suppose you're thinking maybe it's the o2 sensors. The fronts are new nut but not the rears but as far as I know it was the catalytic converter code that was given. When o2 sensors fail isn't it usually the fronts anyway? It seems like every car I have had to change them on it has been the upstream o2's
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2012, 02:46 PM
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234 berry1234 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,008
berry1234 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
I would go back to the shop that installed them and hold them accountable. Might be worth a diagnosis at a dealer you trust also.
__________________
1978 F250 Lariat 4x2
2008 Expedition Eddie Bauer 4x2


Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2012, 03:07 PM
07expeblack 07expeblack is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
07expeblack is starting off with a positive reputation.
Yeah very true but That shop is 2 and a half hours away and it's been a few months now and at the most they could do is refund the $300 spent on universals and I'd still be without cats, or I guess more than likely I guess that $300 would go towards the $1500 oem cat. Taking it to Ford would be ok but I bet they'd charger an hour labor to run an obd II scan and it'd take them all day to get to it. So no one knows anything about the MIL delete? The car's not running bad just tired of staring at the light. When it came time for inspection I just reset the ecu for by disconnecting the battery for awhile
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-24-2012, 07:18 AM
Grzmonky78 Grzmonky78 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3
Grzmonky78 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Cat or 02 issues?

The 02 sensors after the cats are the sensors that detect if the cats are working or not. If the old cats had failed it can cause the downstream 02's to carbon up and not work anymore too. 02 sensors are a regular tune up item, maby look into replacing them as well. Did you have the code cleared from the vehical? If not the light will stay on. The auto parts stores where you had the code read should be able to clear it. What I would do is having them them write the codes down for you, have them clear any saved codes and see if the engine light comes back on now that you've had the cats replaced. If the light does come back on get that code and see if its the same as the first code. If you post the code I'm sure we could more accuratly help fix the underlying problem... I dont know about mil eliminators dont even know what it is but sounds like putting tape over the light instead of fixing the problem.

Last edited by Grzmonky78; 05-24-2012 at 07:38 AM. Reason: Better explination.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-24-2012, 06:21 PM
07expeblack 07expeblack is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
07expeblack is starting off with a positive reputation.
I reset the comp once by disconnecting battery to get it inspected but it came on shortly after. Maybe I'll try to replace rears, but pretty sure it has something to do w the universal cat being on there. Couple weeks ago I was getting some work done on my car and I heard the mech tell a lady who also need cats that the universals wouldn't work and the light would come back on. Mil's are a band-aid of sorts yeah, they're mainly used for people who aren't running cats at all, they tell the ecu that the o2's are getting correct readings.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2012, 08:41 PM
Tylus's Avatar
Tylus Tylus is offline
MMC (SS) Bubblehead!
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pearl Harbor
Posts: 10,480
Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.Tylus has a spectacular reputation.
You'd probably be better served dropping this thread/question into the Engine Tech arena. But first things first.

1. Go to Autozone/Shucks/Napa...whatever the brand and ask to use their diagnostic OBD-II tool. Usually free
2. Post up the code you are seeing
3. What mileage does your Expy have?
4. How is your MPG situation?
5. Did the shop that "repaired" your cats provide you any paperwork to prove your cats were bad?

give us some more info and lets see what the root of your issue is before you go off and throw money at the issue ***** nilly.



btw, MIL eliminators work decently, but I personally would just have them custom tuned/turned off. Did that for my Mustang when I ran longtubes and offroad "h" pipe. PCM didn't care and my MPG's came back.
I have never seen them for the Expy, but I have seen them for the 04-08 F-150 (basically exact same vehicle with a bed cap). I'd call up Mike Troyer or 5 Star Tuning and ask them. A performance shop can get you a proper answer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07expeblack View Post
The expediton is my wife's car and I'm new to this forum just thought I'd see if I could get a little help on this issue. I'm on several mustang forums and they seem to be a little bit more helpful. I guess because their are DIY guys in the mustang comunity and I suppose there is only so much that can be done to an expediton and the like.
well excuse FTE for not immediately jumping to your aid! This section of FTE is rather sparsly traveled. Only die-hard Ford guys and someone who has an issue with their rig (you) ever swing by here.

The Mustang forums are amok with people full of 1/2 **** and vinegar who 99% of the time are clueless and give out contradictory advice for any topic. I had an idiot tell me headers on my 09 Bullitt were worthless and that I'd see no gains...pretty soon 10 other morons agreed. shoulda read the ruckus when I lowered my car with "Foose stallion" parts and GT500 components. I had to quit that forum due to all the crap


anyways, welcome to FTE. Hang out for awhile and we'll get you where you need to be.
__________________
2002 Excursion XLT w/ V-10 <---Build thread
2015 Chevrolet Tahoe - I was a loyal Ford owner for years - Now I'm not - Ford's idea, not mine!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 06-07-2012, 08:08 PM
Pete D's Avatar
Pete D Pete D is offline
New User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7
Pete D is starting off with a positive reputation.
Did you get your old cats back? The factory cats are worth money at the junk yard.
Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2012, 08:08 PM
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > 2007+ Expedition & Navigator

Tags
07, 2007, cat, cel, check, eliminator, engine, expedition, expediton, f150, ford, light, make, mil, universal, univseral

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.5.2 ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup