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Old 08-20-2012, 09:01 AM
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OK thanks guys

Have never removed an IP before but looks easy enough:

remove 2 bolts and cover at front of block, remove throttle linkage, etc and TPS
remove 3 nuts holding it to timing thing, remove 3 nuts near manifold, remove hard lines from injectors and it should pop out right?

I don't think I should have too much trouble taking it out

Just hope new one goes in easily and it STARTS!

and Eaton believe me I am going to treat your pump like a baby
D2, some diesel kleen and 65-70mph driving, and of course a new fuel filter.

Was wondering since I am installing pump should I turn fuel screw up a 1/8-1/4 turn?
And advance the pump a dime's width or less to passenger side?
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by linus72
OK thanks guys

Have never removed an IP before but looks easy enough:

remove 2 bolts and cover at front of block, remove throttle linkage, etc and TPS
remove 3 nuts holding it to timing thing, remove 3 nuts near manifold, remove hard lines from injectors and it should pop out right?

I don't think I should have too much trouble taking it out

Just hope new one goes in easily and it STARTS!

and Eaton believe me I am going to treat your pump like a baby
D2, some diesel kleen and 65-70mph driving, and of course a new fuel filter.

Was wondering since I am installing pump should I turn fuel screw up a 1/8-1/4 turn?
And advance the pump a dime's width or less to passenger side?
Leave the fuel screw alone. You don't want to complicate this job and turning it will just make your MPG worse and that is the last thing you need on a budget like yours. A dime's width or a little less should be fine.

You need a 5/16 12 (or 16, I can't remember) point socket to get the timing gear bolts off. I should have sent you my socket on loan but I didn't even think about it.

I'll dig up that IP replacement article and post it. It's not quite as easy as unbolting it. Sometimes you need to wrestle it. My hint to people is to leave the injector lines attached except for the rear two. It makes pulling the pump out a lot easier.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:49 AM
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IDI Fuel Injection Serviceing

Some of this you are skipping but the basic process is laid out.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:50 AM
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Whatever you do, do NOT remove the front drive gear housing (the half round cast aluminum part that the pump bolts to). If you remove the drive gear, you will very likely loose the correct timing alignment.

There is an access cover at the front of the housing held on by two bolts. You will have to remove that in order to gain access to the shaft bolts that holds the pump shaft to the drive gear.

There are three shaft bolts that holds the shaft to the gear. And yes, these bolts are 12 point 5/16" if I remember right. A socket is ideal, but a box end wrench can work too if you're carefull.

Then there are three attaching nuts that holds the pump to the back of the gear housing - remove those.

Once you have disconnected all of the injector lines from the injectors, the pump and lines should slide back and out as one assembly. It will take some wiggling, but it will come out without having to bend any of the lines. Tilt the rear up and to the side and it will work.

Swap the lines over to the new pump before attempting to reinstall everything.

If you can swing it, put loctite on the gear bolts (the 12 point ones) during the install. I had all three come out on me once...
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:22 PM
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OK
I'll be careful!

I got the pump today

will be going now to remove old IP and hopefully swap in the new one and fire it up!

will take pics, etc!

EDIT:

Got the IP off lickety split!
Pics coming





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Sweeet!!!!!
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:37 PM
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I can't believe posted pictures of the old one being out before putting the new one in. I'd be all over installing that new one asap in your situation!

patiently waiting for an update... Hoping best of luck for you!
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:48 PM
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actually the dumb motel girl tried to knock on my door while I was in shower and left package in the office so I have to wait for her to get back from Elko!!
arrggghh!

sucks but she should be back anytime now...
 
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Yessss were at the climax of the story now!
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:12 PM
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No doubt lol
Flight out of the Twilight Zone!

as for climax I still have the Donner Pass ahead of me?!
 
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No doubt lol
Flight out of the Twilight Zone!

as for climax I still have the Donner Pass ahead of me?!
Will be know problem with D2 in the tank. Don't remember the torq on the pump gear but it is tighter then the pump bolts so torq them down. Someone should pop in.

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Old 08-20-2012, 07:35 PM
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Will be know problem with D2 in the tank. Don't remember the torq on the pump gear but it is tighter then the pump bolts so torq them down. Someone should pop in.

Chet
Injection Pump Gear Bolt 25 ft lbs (34nm)
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:57 PM
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Good job!

Hope that new IP will definitely fix your problems! (Although it would have been awesome to have you buy that early 1970s big block Dodge, I guess it's still cheaper to continue on your way with the appropriate truck for the online forum where you're chronicling your adventure... otherwise, the rest of the story westward would probably be told on Mopar tech forums!)

And... we're all witnesses that you now owe eatont9999 a working IP. It's almost unbelievable how helpful people can be here! Just seeing this from an outside POV makes my day.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:58 PM
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I'm really hoping there hasn't been an update because he got that IP in and is hauling *** out of there... Not that the IP is still locked in the office...

Hoping things go your way, we're all waiting on the edge of our seats.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:03 PM
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I'm really hoping there hasn't been an update because he got that IP in and is hauling *** out of there... Not that the IP is still locked in the office...

Hoping things go your way, we're all waiting on the edge of our seats.
No way he's left town without coming back here to post that the truck has been restarted...

Maybe he's had to stop because it got too dark outside... Sunset time in Wells NV for August 20th is 7:32 pm, and it's currently 9:00 pm Mountain Time, so he's been in the dark for about an hour and a half by now.
 


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