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Old 05-20-2012, 10:09 PM
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for what its worth, i know that in the F-trucks, there were "light" and "heavy" F250s. i happen to own a 6000# F250, while others are 8000 or more.
that said, his sticker of 7000 may well be legitimate.
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The light Duty and HD F250's or E250's are easy to spot if the hubcaps are missing.


The LD have the semin floater axle, and the HD has the full floater.


But that doesn't apply much anymore in the van world. I seen alot of Diesel Ambulances E350's with semi floater axles, witch is stupid!
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The Ford sticker (driver door jamb) says 7900 lbs GVW. I need to double-check, but I think the Ford Owner's Manual lists an E250 "Conversion" at that GVW.
There is another sticker from Elk that appears to have info for an E150 (wrong size & type tires, etc)... so it seems that things at the conversion company were a little "fast and loose" - unless it was a "Monday Van"(?).
I'll eventually get some pix...
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Mark I look forward to seeing your actual Ford stickers----must be something to John's ideas about Light Duty vs Heavy Duty E-Series?
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Finally - got a decent picture of the Ford tag (one of the kids took it with an I-phone, I could not get my Canon to focus on it for some reason).
The Ford tag from the door jamb:
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The "other" sticker inside the rear door - from Elk or Roll??)
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Hard to believe that this beast is only 7900 GVW, the Expy is 7300 with seemingly smaller everything (and only needs 35 psi in the "P" 17" tires).
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fwiw, I decided to eliminate the sticker with the hand-written numbers (even tho it said "do not remove" - hey, it's not like it was on a mattress) since the info was incorrect...
I'll go with the sticker from Ford for actual data.
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FWIW Dropped off some scrap a couple weeks ago, on the way out with 10 gallons gas (filled afterward and put 25.x in) it weighed 5410 WITHOUT me in it. It's a '98 Chateau Club Wagon, all 3 rows of seats were in it. No running boards, nothing aftermarket.
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fwiw, I decided to eliminate the sticker with the hand-written numbers (even tho it said "do not remove" - hey, it's not like it was on a mattress) since the info was incorrect...
I'll go with the sticker from Ford for actual data.
I have no idea what those numbers could possibly be referring to---makes absolutely no sense. Although if the Matress Tag Police get bored, looking to expand they might come lookin' for miscreants like YOU!

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FWIW Dropped off some scrap a couple weeks ago, on the way out with 10 gallons gas (filled afterward and put 25.x in) it weighed 5410 WITHOUT me in it. It's a '98 Chateau Club Wagon, all 3 rows of seats were in it. No running boards, nothing aftermarket.
I'd have thought a CW with all seats would have weighed more than that---my empty E250 EB was a whopping 5,300#, no full sized spare mounted underneath.

I'm now at 7,600# as a daily driver outfitted with Snap On tool box, various other van-specific metal shelving and glass working tools, supplies and parts.
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I'd have thought a CW with all seats would have weighed more than that---my empty E250 EB was a whopping 5,300#, no full sized spare mounted underneath.
When you think about it, it's about right, I've seen published curb weight for an E150 right around 4800, obviously thats a base cargo, standard body, maybe without even AC? Maybe even an empty gas tank, dunno how they do the curb weight.
Now add the insulation and side panels, carpeting, blower motor. evap and heater cores for the rear HVAC, side glass then the seats, just guessing a few hundred for all that. The CW buckets are around 70 each (weighed one on a bathroom scale) plus the big steel bases, figure thats 150 for the second row, third row bench I'm guessing around 100lbs. It's the plane one, doesn't fold or recline. Theres your 5-600 over curb.
For yours the 5300 sounds right if by "empty" you mean besides no cargo, it is also a cargo van or you removed the 2nd & 3rd row seats. I figure around 250-300 lbs more for the EB with the extra sheet metal, glass and frame, then the extra weight from what ever bigger heavier duty suspension parts of a 250 vs. a 150
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Yes sir, "empty" meaning just as delivered from factory even with the pathetic 225R75-16 tires. (Those have been changed out for Michelin 245R75-16's.)

There was no full sized spare installed when weighed immediately after my purchase. I figure that adds at least 75#.
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so... std body E250 "conversion", no middle seat, 3rd row "futon", transfer seat, fuel tank shield, and single-post lift (I was told 300#), empty gas tank - the 5581 sounds like it may be an actual weight from a scale... of course it could also be prior to the RollX conversion(?).
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Mark I would say that's a good guesstimation for what you've got.

What that sticker was trying to convey still escapes me though.
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What that sticker was trying to convey still escapes me though.
Thanks.
That is pretty much what I've been wondering for 2 years now
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