09 5.4 vs 11 5.0 mpg/towing
#61
an v8 engine with a flat plane crank would not be very useful in a pickup.
in order to make it useful in a truck, you would lose all the benefits a flat plane crank has to offer.
I like the idea of a ecoboosted v8, but not in a half-ton. My guess is that if we ever see a turbo charged v8, it will be smaller than 5.0 liters in displacement, and will reside between the fenders of a F250/350.
now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
in order to make it useful in a truck, you would lose all the benefits a flat plane crank has to offer.
I like the idea of a ecoboosted v8, but not in a half-ton. My guess is that if we ever see a turbo charged v8, it will be smaller than 5.0 liters in displacement, and will reside between the fenders of a F250/350.
now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
I'm not too informed on a flat plane crank, but as I understand it, it's basically 2- 4 cylinders mated together. I've heard the vibrations, etc can be brutal in one.
#62
flat plane cranks are great for racing because of their natural ability to run very high rpm.
the coyote motor you are talking about is reported to make it's power in the 8,000 rpm range. great for racing, not so much for a truck.
also, without a balance shaft, the vibrations can be unnerving, despite it's natural ability to turn high rpm (due to smaller counter weights).
here's a decent video
and another:
my apologies for the off topic departure.
none of this has anything to do with fuel mileage while towing.
the coyote motor you are talking about is reported to make it's power in the 8,000 rpm range. great for racing, not so much for a truck.
also, without a balance shaft, the vibrations can be unnerving, despite it's natural ability to turn high rpm (due to smaller counter weights).
here's a decent video
and another:
my apologies for the off topic departure.
none of this has anything to do with fuel mileage while towing.
#63
Mike, no need to apologize for drifting off topic of fuel mileage towing, imo. Where in the power band power is made has everything to do with towing. The lower in the power band power is made the better fuel mileage will be towing or not. Higher RPM means more fuel and air is needed to maintain proper A/F ratio. So therefore the fact that 180 degree cranks are made to wind high better than be a rock crawler is relevant.
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