the official OBS diesel off topic thread
There are a TON of people (especially on Facebook) who get the "go buy a 6.7L, your 7.3L is out of date" answer when they ask about even relatively simple problems with their 7.3L. Not everyone has the capital resources to drop that kind of money, and quite frankly some people WANT an older truck because of emissions issues. Many of the 6.7L smart alecs are wearing flat-billed hats and white sunglasses, so I'm not sure if that relates to the problem or not...
I "built" a comparable 2015 truck to my CCLB, and the price tag was more than the appraised value of my 3 bedroom split level brick-encased house. Um, no thanks...lol.
I "built" a comparable 2015 truck to my CCLB, and the price tag was more than the appraised value of my 3 bedroom split level brick-encased house. Um, no thanks...lol.
I'm going to do two things for sure, put my 6.0 trans cooler on and my air bags. I'm also thinking about putting my PCM in with the Hydra though I don't know if it would help all that much. I guess if I can get an additional 60 hp out of it that should help.
I have thought about just swapping the engines. The thought of the low mile motor appeals to me but I'm not looking forward to all that work.
I've been putting a lot of thought into this and I'm thinking now of just leaving the Geo and the little trailer with the motor and trans in it here in Michigan. After getting to AZ I'll come back and pull the Geo with trailer behind it back. Only thing is, in most states a double ball hitch triple tow is illegal. IDK, IDK, IDK
I have thought about just swapping the engines. The thought of the low mile motor appeals to me but I'm not looking forward to all that work.
I've been putting a lot of thought into this and I'm thinking now of just leaving the Geo and the little trailer with the motor and trans in it here in Michigan. After getting to AZ I'll come back and pull the Geo with trailer behind it back. Only thing is, in most states a double ball hitch triple tow is illegal. IDK, IDK, IDK
I'm serious. We've done this kind of stuff before. Ideally, I'd have a little better place to do it, but my shop will work well enough for this kind of thing. Heck we can even swap over your trans unless JW wants to see it first before it goes in. I don't know if I'd be comfortable adding that power to the Ox and leaving that stock slushbox in it, but if JW gives it the clear to go, then I think we can get you going. It'd be a good time and I bet we could get a few guys from the FTE brotherhood to come and hang out for the weekend. I know I have a couple here locally that aren't necessarily 7.3 guys but can turn wrenches well enough.
Happy Saturday dudes. I just have to say that I have been reading a lot on the other forums for the 6.7, just out of curiosity. First of all, I will never be the guy to walk into a dealership and drop $65k on any truck whether I can afford it or not. But second, the absolute BS these people deal with over warranty issues and getting the warranty honored blows my mind. Sure my old truck has frustrated me at times, but I would be livid beyond belief to have to deal with the sort of idiocy these guys have encountered on these "warrantied" trucks. It just torques me even reading about it. I know I am just one small guy, but I am one small guy that Ford will never see walk in to a dealership. I love my loud, rattly, stinky truck.
I had a guy strike up a conversation with me this weekend as I was picking up a load of mulch to finish my landscaping around the house. He asked a few questions about the truck and his remark was "that's a 7.3 too, so it's bulletproof". He's a Ford guy and has a fleet of nice trucks and he was wishing he still had the 7.3. It's telling to me...
There are a TON of people (especially on Facebook) who get the "go buy a 6.7L, your 7.3L is out of date" answer when they ask about even relatively simple problems with their 7.3L. Not everyone has the capital resources to drop that kind of money, and quite frankly some people WANT an older truck because of emissions issues. Many of the 6.7L smart alecs are wearing flat-billed hats and white sunglasses, so I'm not sure if that relates to the problem or not...
I "built" a comparable 2015 truck to my CCLB, and the price tag was more than the appraised value of my 3 bedroom split level brick-encased house. Um, no thanks...lol.
I "built" a comparable 2015 truck to my CCLB, and the price tag was more than the appraised value of my 3 bedroom split level brick-encased house. Um, no thanks...lol.
Exactly Thomas. I'll keep my blue collar brothers and my greasy wrench because with it comes the pride of doing something yourself and having the hands to prove it. No limpfish handshakes here.
Here's what you do, Glenn. Hook that 5er up and tow it down here. There's a nice RV park called Evergreen Park RV Resort that is about 25 minutes away from me. Drop the 5er there with the Geo, then rent a trailer here for a day (less than $100) and we'll go get the Mare. Park the mare outside my shop, and the Ox inside it and we'll set up a swap party for a three day weekend. I bet we get 4 or 5 guys on it and we can get all your stuff swapped over in a weekend. I have all the tools and equipment we're likely to need and a place to do it. With that RV park not far away you'd have a place to stay while the swap takes place.
I'm serious. We've done this kind of stuff before. Ideally, I'd have a little better place to do it, but my shop will work well enough for this kind of thing. Heck we can even swap over your trans unless JW wants to see it first before it goes in. I don't know if I'd be comfortable adding that power to the Ox and leaving that stock slushbox in it, but if JW gives it the clear to go, then I think we can get you going. It'd be a good time and I bet we could get a few guys from the FTE brotherhood to come and hang out for the weekend. I know I have a couple here locally that aren't necessarily 7.3 guys but can turn wrenches well enough.
You'd be sensitive too if you had just spent $70k on a truck and you were having trouble with it! Haha. It had better be pretty doggone capable for that money... I know the capability is one thing, but the biggest advancement as far as I'm concerned is the refinement. Those trucks can tow 15k like it's nothing and ride like a car at the same time. I kind of like my old truck, but the new ones sure are comfortable.
I had a guy strike up a conversation with me this weekend as I was picking up a load of mulch to finish my landscaping around the house. He asked a few questions about the truck and his remark was "that's a 7.3 too, so it's bulletproof". He's a Ford guy and has a fleet of nice trucks and he was wishing he still had the 7.3. It's telling to me...
I'm serious. We've done this kind of stuff before. Ideally, I'd have a little better place to do it, but my shop will work well enough for this kind of thing. Heck we can even swap over your trans unless JW wants to see it first before it goes in. I don't know if I'd be comfortable adding that power to the Ox and leaving that stock slushbox in it, but if JW gives it the clear to go, then I think we can get you going. It'd be a good time and I bet we could get a few guys from the FTE brotherhood to come and hang out for the weekend. I know I have a couple here locally that aren't necessarily 7.3 guys but can turn wrenches well enough.
You'd be sensitive too if you had just spent $70k on a truck and you were having trouble with it! Haha. It had better be pretty doggone capable for that money... I know the capability is one thing, but the biggest advancement as far as I'm concerned is the refinement. Those trucks can tow 15k like it's nothing and ride like a car at the same time. I kind of like my old truck, but the new ones sure are comfortable.
I had a guy strike up a conversation with me this weekend as I was picking up a load of mulch to finish my landscaping around the house. He asked a few questions about the truck and his remark was "that's a 7.3 too, so it's bulletproof". He's a Ford guy and has a fleet of nice trucks and he was wishing he still had the 7.3. It's telling to me...
Hopefully I don't get grounded by Tom LOL!! I got accused of trolling, etc....dumb
You hit on every point Bill. For me, though I am in Texas right now, when I go back to CA eventually, I won't have to worry about emissions or pay the exorbitant price to register my truck. I love my OBS. Yes, I have been frustrated at times and yes the new ones are a bit more comfortable, but not $70k more comfy.
When I decided to get into diesel, I wanted an OBS. Just like the look of these trucks so much more than any SuperDuty out there (not to say they're not nice trucks, however). With spring conversions, I can make my OBS ride comparably to a SD at a fraction of the cost and power-wise it does everything I need it to. It doesn't need to be a speed demon.
Here's what you do, Glenn. Hook that 5er up and tow it down here. There's a nice RV park called Evergreen Park RV Resort that is about 25 minutes away from me. Drop the 5er there with the Geo, then rent a trailer here for a day (less than $100) and we'll go get the Mare. Park the mare outside my shop, and the Ox inside it and we'll set up a swap party for a three day weekend. I bet we get 4 or 5 guys on it and we can get all your stuff swapped over in a weekend. I have all the tools and equipment we're likely to need and a place to do it. With that RV park not far away you'd have a place to stay while the swap takes place.
I'm serious. We've done this kind of stuff before. Ideally, I'd have a little better place to do it, but my shop will work well enough for this kind of thing. Heck we can even swap over your trans unless JW wants to see it first before it goes in. I don't know if I'd be comfortable adding that power to the Ox and leaving that stock slushbox in it, but if JW gives it the clear to go, then I think we can get you going. It'd be a good time and I bet we could get a few guys from the FTE brotherhood to come and hang out for the weekend. I know I have a couple here locally that aren't necessarily 7.3 guys but can turn wrenches well enough.
You'd be sensitive too if you had just spent $70k on a truck and you were having trouble with it! Haha. It had better be pretty doggone capable for that money... I know the capability is one thing, but the biggest advancement as far as I'm concerned is the refinement. Those trucks can tow 15k like it's nothing and ride like a car at the same time. I kind of like my old truck, but the new ones sure are comfortable.
I had a guy strike up a conversation with me this weekend as I was picking up a load of mulch to finish my landscaping around the house. He asked a few questions about the truck and his remark was "that's a 7.3 too, so it's bulletproof". He's a Ford guy and has a fleet of nice trucks and he was wishing he still had the 7.3. It's telling to me...
I'm serious. We've done this kind of stuff before. Ideally, I'd have a little better place to do it, but my shop will work well enough for this kind of thing. Heck we can even swap over your trans unless JW wants to see it first before it goes in. I don't know if I'd be comfortable adding that power to the Ox and leaving that stock slushbox in it, but if JW gives it the clear to go, then I think we can get you going. It'd be a good time and I bet we could get a few guys from the FTE brotherhood to come and hang out for the weekend. I know I have a couple here locally that aren't necessarily 7.3 guys but can turn wrenches well enough.
You'd be sensitive too if you had just spent $70k on a truck and you were having trouble with it! Haha. It had better be pretty doggone capable for that money... I know the capability is one thing, but the biggest advancement as far as I'm concerned is the refinement. Those trucks can tow 15k like it's nothing and ride like a car at the same time. I kind of like my old truck, but the new ones sure are comfortable.
I had a guy strike up a conversation with me this weekend as I was picking up a load of mulch to finish my landscaping around the house. He asked a few questions about the truck and his remark was "that's a 7.3 too, so it's bulletproof". He's a Ford guy and has a fleet of nice trucks and he was wishing he still had the 7.3. It's telling to me...
Can we get a link to this thread?
I haven't over extended myself since I was a teenager. Being married to a ginger accountant makes for darn sure that the books are in order. Lol. That being said, if I had the coin to drop on a 70k truck, I would in a heartbeat. However, that would mean that I had the means to have several of my coveted "wish list" rides/toys and probably wouldn't sweat a few warranty issues. If they were covered that is. Lol.
I haven't over extended myself since I was a teenager. Being married to a ginger accountant makes for darn sure that the books are in order. Lol. That being said, if I had the coin to drop on a 70k truck, I would in a heartbeat. However, that would mean that I had the means to have several of my coveted "wish list" rides/toys and probably wouldn't sweat a few warranty issues. If they were covered that is. Lol.
When the whole HPFP failures due to water first started to be talked about when the 6.7 was new, I made the comment they should add a water separator between the tank and low pressure fuel pump to catch water if the factory water in fuel thing wasn't up to snuff. I even told them how easy it would be to do with available parts. I was basically laughed at and told the 6.7 didn't need that kind of jury-rigging.
Of course a few months later when Dieselsite came up with a simple water separator with a fancy aluminum mounting bracket and started selling them for $700.00, they all couldn't wait to get them.
Guess they weren't aware that the whole separate water from diesel concept has been around for a while now.
Holy crap Nate, I'm in shock! You guys would do that for me? I'm just a long haired old guy, you lay your eyes on me and your going to wish you never said any thing. Darin has already offered to do this for me in the winter but the thought of it getting ALL done in a weekend is unbelievable.
I have emailed John Woods and he said if the case is OK then the trans is OK. It looks OK to me. The turbo bearing feels a little loose probably ran out of oil for 30 seconds until I got stopped. I've gotten most of the stuff off the mare already, just want my Alcoa wheels, IC, 6.0 trans cooler and maybe my zero lose brake booster that cost me $180. I would want Jim to make my stage II's into I's.
I was out there today, this picture pretty much explains where I'm at. Your killing me with kindness Nate!
I have emailed John Woods and he said if the case is OK then the trans is OK. It looks OK to me. The turbo bearing feels a little loose probably ran out of oil for 30 seconds until I got stopped. I've gotten most of the stuff off the mare already, just want my Alcoa wheels, IC, 6.0 trans cooler and maybe my zero lose brake booster that cost me $180. I would want Jim to make my stage II's into I's.
I was out there today, this picture pretty much explains where I'm at. Your killing me with kindness Nate!