1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

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Old 04-14-2012, 01:30 PM
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Just wanted to say hello this is my first day on here. I just bought me a 49 ford f 1 I am going to fix up. The seller also has a 1979 ford bronco he is wanting to sell me. He said the f 1 will fit the bronco frame, just checking before I buy it. Thanks Raybob
 
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:11 PM
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Welcome raybob . I would give that bronco body swap careful consideration from all angles before you make any commitment . In this hobby patience will be your greatest asset , lots of cash wouldn't hurt either .
 
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:17 PM
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Welcome, the bronco drive train will fit under your f1. Where are you located? Any pictures ? We love pictures. I would guess the bronco swap would depend on your mechanical capabilities. Good luck on your project.

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Old 04-14-2012, 04:49 PM
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Welcome!

Frame swaps aren't easy, and the ten inches difference in the Bronco's wheelbase compared to the F-1's means you'll have to stretch the Bronco's frame. They aren't the same width either, about 4 - 5 inches difference as I recall. Not a weekend project.
 
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:58 PM
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Welcome to the board!

That cold be an intersting project. You'll need lots of patience, skils, and a good tape measure but anything is possible. Oh, and a good steady supply of frosty beverages wouldn't hurt either.

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I f the bronco is off that amount I will try something different. any ideas. Raybob
 
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:28 PM
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I havent heard of an easy frame swap yet, I was going to use a Dodge dakota frame but ending up cutting the heck out of it and the old butchered panel frame to make my panel one work. I takes a lot of time and patients to due these. Not to mention have to fabricate every single darn bracket,brake lines and mounts. And I still dont have anything as nice as some of these guy rigs here. I think you would be better off buying a TCI unit or something simlar that have already done the hard work and is very nice and SAFE. I am not trying to discourage you if you have the skills if you dont....Really think about it. Just some friendly advice. I have some picture of my build on here, take a look and it may give you an Idea what I had to do. Good luck and Welcome to the forum!
 
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:03 AM
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Is the F1 frame junk? you said you were fixing it up, so you are wanting it 4x4?
There are a few guys on here that have used the F1 frame and put different axles under it. I am sure they will chime in soon! Seems to me like I remember an early bronco (66-77) axle for the front end.
 
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Spend your money on a used Jag IFS and a 57-72 9" rear end. Your existing frame with those componets will be just fine.
 
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Hey Raybob,
You got the first part right - You bought a 1948 F1! Now don't wander off into the desert in search of some magical frame swap - use the frame you have & fix what's bothering you.

o Stock rear gear ratio won't let you get to highway speeds.
Pull the rear axle & replace it with an older F150 9 inch or an Explorer
8.8 inch with a nice gear ratio. (Takes a weekend or two).

o The stock drum brakes are scary.....
Do some maintenance & replace the worn out pads & lines or
put in a front disc brake conversion - $400. (A weekend).

o The steering wanders all over the road & is a rough ride...
Replace the worn out King pins, bushings, etc. & tighten up the stock
straight axle or install a Mustang II kit made for our trucks. $1500 -
$2500 & 3 to 4 months. (Fix the stock front end $800 & 4 weeks).

You can get there without replacing the frame but if you really want to replace it - TCI makes some with the 4 wheel disc brakes & Independent front suspension, etc. but they are pricey - $8K or so?

Good luck over there - Shoot some pics of your truck & let us know what
you like & what is challenging you. Please don't wander off into the desert in search of frame swaps.....

Ben in Austin
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frame ok

frame is ok, I think I will replace the rearend with a 9' ford I did that on a car I have I used a 59 ford 9" 57 1/4" wide. does anyone know off hand what 9" to use in my 49 ford f1. also I am going to rebuild my stock front end and install a toyota power steering. question after you install the power steering and rebuild the frontend does it steer like a modern day truck. thanks Raybob
 
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I got my drive train out of a 68 Ford Fairlane. The rear was about 58" which was alittle narrow so I made up the difference with reverse wheels. I think the correct width is 59 1/2". Someone one this site will know the exact size. I think the frame swap is too much work which can turn into a black hole for your $$. Just use the drive train from the Bronco. That is assuming the 49's frame is ok. Welcome to the site. Lots of good folks willing to help.
 
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Hey Raybob,
Here is a link to the bible on what will fit our trucks. The '48-'52
are a little narrower than the '53 & later.

Ben in Austin

1948 through 1960 Ford F-1 and F-100 Rear Axle (differential) Swaps .: Articles
 
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:28 AM
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Welcome to FTE! Looking forward to seeing pics!
 
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My '48 is sitting on an '86 Bronco frame. Lots of "fab" work. I shortened my bed by 10in.
 


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