BENCH SEAT REMOVAL
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The 2008 should have the strap in back to release them. I had a 99 E150 with the metal lever than locked the seats in place and I was never a big fan of that method. Now that I have the 2008, I'm not all that happy with the new system either. It's not all that easy to pull both straps and tilt the seat at the same time. The main problem is that everything is a lot more heavily built now (for safety reasons?). The seats seem to be at least 25% heavier than the ones in my 99. Also the new brackets that are bolted to the floor are almost twice the height of the old style. I use my van for work and pleasure and it sure is a pain to have all those tall brackets standing up like that.
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so......they are removable by pulling the straps ,,tilting and then lifting out????
it might serve my purpose better to just unbolt the brackets w/ the seat attached and then replace the bolts to fill in the holes.
once the rear bench is removed, I may try to find a way to move the middle bench back some as where it is now it is impossible for an adult to be comfortable in..
it might serve my purpose better to just unbolt the brackets w/ the seat attached and then replace the bolts to fill in the holes.
once the rear bench is removed, I may try to find a way to move the middle bench back some as where it is now it is impossible for an adult to be comfortable in..
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On my old van, we took a long trip with a second couple, so I took some 1/4" x 6" x 20"? steel and made an extension to move the seat back about 10". I drilled holes in the steel to bolt it to the floor and welded on studs that stood up to bolt the brackets to. Not sure if it'd meet government standards, but I didn't really care about that.
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Salty, hope you figured out how to get the seat out. Basically you release the seat, then have to naviagate the latches. (You don't want to unbolt the 8 or so torx's bolt and pull the brackets too, figure out the correct way to pull the seat) The bench seats are heavy and you having a helper makes it much easier.
You say that the 2nd row is uncomfortable for adults, is that becuase the seat is too close to the front buckets or because it's upright? You said you were thinking of moving the 2nd row back, that is not an easy task. You'll need to have the bolt holes re-inforced in the floor fabricated like the factory ones. By doing this you may now make the 3rd row too close to get in. Also, you'd need to makke sure that the seat belts will line up too.
Maybe a better solution is an improved 2nd row bench? Here's a website that has seat options including a bench with reclining functions. good luck. Mike
van accessories, chevy ford oem bench seats
You say that the 2nd row is uncomfortable for adults, is that becuase the seat is too close to the front buckets or because it's upright? You said you were thinking of moving the 2nd row back, that is not an easy task. You'll need to have the bolt holes re-inforced in the floor fabricated like the factory ones. By doing this you may now make the 3rd row too close to get in. Also, you'd need to makke sure that the seat belts will line up too.
Maybe a better solution is an improved 2nd row bench? Here's a website that has seat options including a bench with reclining functions. good luck. Mike
van accessories, chevy ford oem bench seats
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Having pulled the benches on my 2008 several times, I recommend that you unbolt the brackets from the floor and leave them attached to the seats. This will benefit you in several ways.
1) the bases will slide on carpet or concrete far easier than the tiny hooks at the bottom of the
seat pedestals.
2) those big bolts that go into the floor tend to rust and can be a bear to take out. Removing them sooner rather than later and using some anti sieze when putting them in could be wise.
3) to remove the seats from the bases, you have to unlatch the rear, tilt them forward and then hug them across their width and pull them back, then lift one side out of the base, then the other until you wrestle them from their bases. The 4 person bench will just barely turn sideways in the van. They must weigh 200#.
Definitely not Stow-N-Go, more like heave- ho.
1) the bases will slide on carpet or concrete far easier than the tiny hooks at the bottom of the
seat pedestals.
2) those big bolts that go into the floor tend to rust and can be a bear to take out. Removing them sooner rather than later and using some anti sieze when putting them in could be wise.
3) to remove the seats from the bases, you have to unlatch the rear, tilt them forward and then hug them across their width and pull them back, then lift one side out of the base, then the other until you wrestle them from their bases. The 4 person bench will just barely turn sideways in the van. They must weigh 200#.
Definitely not Stow-N-Go, more like heave- ho.
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This is going to be my plan for the future also. The engineers just didn't do a good job with the newer seats when it comes to removal. I'll keep the appropriate torx bit and cordless drill handy. That 4 passenger back seat may never makes it way back into my van!
Jack
Jack
Having pulled the benches on my 2008 several times, I recommend that you unbolt the brackets from the floor and leave them attached to the seats. This will benefit you in several ways.
1) the bases will slide on carpet or concrete far easier than the tiny hooks at the bottom of the
seat pedestals.
2) those big bolts that go into the floor tend to rust and can be a bear to take out. Removing them sooner rather than later and using some anti sieze when putting them in could be wise.
3) to remove the seats from the bases, you have to unlatch the rear, tilt them forward and then hug them across their width and pull them back, then lift one side out of the base, then the other until you wrestle them from their bases. The 4 person bench will just barely turn sideways in the van. They must weigh 200#.
Definitely not Stow-N-Go, more like heave- ho.
1) the bases will slide on carpet or concrete far easier than the tiny hooks at the bottom of the
seat pedestals.
2) those big bolts that go into the floor tend to rust and can be a bear to take out. Removing them sooner rather than later and using some anti sieze when putting them in could be wise.
3) to remove the seats from the bases, you have to unlatch the rear, tilt them forward and then hug them across their width and pull them back, then lift one side out of the base, then the other until you wrestle them from their bases. The 4 person bench will just barely turn sideways in the van. They must weigh 200#.
Definitely not Stow-N-Go, more like heave- ho.
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The 2008 should have the strap in back to release them. I had a 99 E150 with the metal lever than locked the seats in place and I was never a big fan of that method. Now that I have the 2008, I'm not all that happy with the new system either. It's not all that easy to pull both straps and tilt the seat at the same time. The main problem is that everything is a lot more heavily built now (for safety reasons?). The seats seem to be at least 25% heavier than the ones in my 99. Also the new brackets that are bolted to the floor are almost twice the height of the old style. I use my van for work and pleasure and it sure is a pain to have all those tall brackets standing up like that.
Are the four person seat brackets (third row) any different in size or shape than the three person seat bracket (second row) in a 2008 econoline? Thanks!
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