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All good info Mike. Thanks for stopping by. Did Ford use Warn hubs around this time? Warn or Ford is what I would like for sure. Now is the NP 208 a part time case? It is I think. Full time was a 70's Hi-Boy thing for the most part I think. I just played with the Vacuum advance a little. It's definitely on ported vacuum as it has none at idle and does with just a little RPM. But I couldn't find a piece of line to put on the dizzy and suck to see if the advance was working well or not. I am sure it works some or it would run a lot worse. But I think there may be a problem with it as for the reason she falls on her face under hard acceleration. It's like it don't advance far enough. The only thing I can see changed on the engine from stock is the Holly 4V to a small Edelbrock. I am about to head for town as soon as I can get the 12 year old out the door for school. So when I get home this afternoon I'll pop the cap on the dizzy and look for play and see what she has for spark advance. And check fuel pressure. I been wanting to get a pressure tester so this is a good reason to pick up one today. Also when I got the cap of I can rock the engine over back and forth and check the slop in the timing chain.

So what else can I check this afternoon and anything else I need from town? It's a 3 hour round trip on a good day and right now the road is as bad as I have ever seen it. So trips to the parts store are once a week at best.
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Any of ya all know any specs on the Marine crate engine I have that I plan to put in this summer? And what and where can I find head and engine numbers to better tell us what we are working with. Like if a better set of heads are needed for the Marine engine I need to get them now and get them on while I'm getting it ready to go in.

Oh!! one other thing. She has been eating starters and ring gears. It just had a new flex plate with gear and a starter installed. The shop the previous owner had do the work shimmed the starter but it still ain't right. Is there different tooth counts to be concerned with on this. The Marine engine spun over just fine if I remember correctly, There is no prob with it. So what is the problem with the one in the Bronc do ya think?
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Not a problem, Yes, the 208 is a part-timecase. It was the 205 or 203 that was the full-time case.
Carb wise you shouldnt need anything larger than a 600. I have a Edelbrock 600 w/ electric choke...It been rebuilt, but since it was the one that was on the truck when I bought it...I think that its seen better days. but regardless. My 351w is nowhere near stock, and I still run it with a in-line electric fuel pump. when It was stock, Id average 10.5mpg, C6/4.10s/31x10.50s...now Im just under 9mpg. But I still need to tune it some, and Im just going to replace the carb with a fresh new one.

Anyway, Your carb might need a rebuild, check your dizzy. Search up the 6 liter tune-up. that thread should also help out alot. The 33s are also a contributing factor...larger heavier tires with more rolling resistance can cut into your fuel mileage.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:38 PM
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Carb is NEW. I got the 31X10.5 on her now and gained a couple with them. I am off to town now. Thanks Mike
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I swapped my auto-hub, check the linky in my sig for a write-up. About the mileage, have you checked if you have any fuel leaks? dead cilinders? are the carb and engine tuned up right? the brakes? are they dragging?. Just some possibilities to check.
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Encho, The brakes are okay. I may have a fuel leak. One dead cylinder was found and fixed with replacing the plug wire. Carb is new and tuned well.

We made it to town and back yesterday. She no longer falls on her face as before. Still don't have the power I think it should but she will pull steady up to 85. That's as fast as I wanted to go. Still 6.8 MPG.

We stopped to chat with a fellow that was sweeping a wet parking lot. He saw that there was gas leaking and leaving a sheen on the wet lot. I have not been out to investigate that farther yet. I am still resting up after yesterdays trip. And it's blowing and raining out as well.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:26 PM
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I see ND Bill is back. Hi Bill.

I only have the two rear hub caps. And only enough screws left to install one. Assuming she has factory wheels in the photos, I would like part numbers and availability for all 4 caps and screws.

The starter and flex plate with ring gear are new. The shop that installed them before I got the truck had to shim out the starter. The old starter has the teeth missing on the starter drive. And the old ring gear is badly worn. The new starter sounds like crap as It grinds badly and I fear it aint long for the world. Is there more than one starter/ring gear available for this application? What more info is needed from me on this to get the right parts?

No one has said as yet if the new Marine crate engine I have would be a better engine or not. Doesn't it have better heads, Straight up timing and more of an RV type cam? Where do I find numbers on heads and blocks to tell us more?

I'll go out in a bit and drag my crippled *** under the truck and look for a fuel leak and inspect the starter.
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I crawled under The Bronc. There is a few oil drips but the fuel system looks good and tight.

The starter is tight and has no shims. I didn't think it did. The indexing plate is there and all looks good. So whats wrong with the starter? Could the tooth count between the starter drive and ring gear be different? IDK

What lube does the NP 208 take? ATF?

I want to change out the Auto Hubs for locking hubs. What is the part number for the locking hubs? Bill?
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Sorry man. I'm fueling tomorrow's hangover. actually, you are getting into an area where I'm not too familiar. I've read about people doing junkyard swaps with other starters that look identical but have a different tooth count and tear up flex plates. I can't be too much help here.
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Thanks for stopping by Justin. Maybe I will try the starter I have for the marine engine. It was on the 302 that was in the boat to start with. Seems I read on here something about the Windsor starters being different but I have not had any luck with the search function.

I have the funds now to dive head long into this project and "Git Er Done". But I can't seem to get anyone to come up with the part number for the locking hubs I want. There is nothing worse than living in the bush as I do and getting the wrong part. So having part numbers is a must.

I want to replace the tube bar grill as well. Where to get one? I have a Summit Catalog and a Cabela's. Nothing in them. Although some of Cabela's Camo decals and Visors and stuff looks interesting. But prolly to tacky. I have not seen a truck yet with there Camo stuff on yet so what ya all think?

I think a winch and bumper is in order. Help me out here. What are you folks using?
I'm thinking a Warn winch around 8000 pounds. But what about a bumper to house it. I would like to mount it so the fair-lead is flush with the bumper. Like mount the winch up under the radiator.

I am not interested in a lift kit. The 33X12.5 fit well and work well for the off roading I'll be doing.
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I just put these in my cart.

Ford Bronco F150 wheel center cap hubcap 4x4 front | eBay

If the ebay link don't work they are the front hub caps. I still need the 6 screws to hold them on Bill.

Now back to looking for locking hubs. No luck yet on ebay. Like I said I don't have very good search ethics or something.
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Can anyone tell me if I got an 8.8 or 9 inch rear?

All I can find on e-bay is Bronco II hubs. Guess I'll call My Napa store. But they are good at getting the wrong part without a part number
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Ya know what we need is Numberdummy Bill. I need some part numbers and the VIN decoded. Anyone know what is going on with him? I hope he is all okay.
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Part numbers for the stock hub caps and screws. I only got the back two and not enough screws to mount them both.

And numbers for the lock out hubs for a start. I have not had a good time with e-bay. Only time I use them was a couple of month ago for some bike parts and got royally screwed.
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E = Class E: 6,001-7,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating range.

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A32673 = 1985 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the Bronco's specific serial number.

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AXLE 16 = 1980/83 F100, 1980/86 F150 & Bronco, 1980/87 E100/150: Ford 9" Rear Axle / 3.50-1 / non Limited Slip / 3,750 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity / NOTE: The 8.8" has an inspection cover, 9" does not.

Tricky, I need to know a coupla things...

I need the front axle ID tag to look up the hubs (without it, it's a PITA as there are over 100 front driving axle parts lists ).

The tag is under one of the bolts that retains the inspection cover to the housing. Do not be surprised if the puppy is missing.

Your Bronco has styled aluminum wheels. Which type of hubcaps are present, black plastic or plastic chrome? Are the hubcaps 4 5/16" or 7 1/8" in diameter?

If the hubcaps are black, so are the screws. If the hubcaps are chromed plastic, the screws are chrome.

> > D7TZ-1A100-A .. Hubcap Nylon Anchor-Use with Styled Aluminum Wheels / Available from Ford and they're cheap / Takes 3 per wheel and buy at least all 12, maybe a coupla extra. because...

The screws cut their own threads in the nylon anchors, so...

After two or three times of R&R'ing the hubcaps, the anchors become worthless. Whizzing around a corner, the hubcaps will fly off taking the screws and anchors along with them. Not pleasant!

Sold 100's of the screws, anchors and dozens of these caps for this reason / MSRP each: $0.87 // FTE sponsor PARTSGUYED.COM (Horizon Ford in Seattle WA) price each: $0.62. < <
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Sorry i don't have any knowledge for you Arctic on the marine motor but i'm sure some guys on the motor threads would be able to help. I also can't really help with the locking hub situation.
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