Looking for some help and advice. I bought a rebuilt 460 from a 71 Lincoln (according the the numbers on the block) to put into my 74 F250 Camper Special 2WD, it currently has a 360 in it with a C6 AT. I have been looking on this sight for information and have found some things but not sure if it is what I am looking for. I am trying to find out what motor and frame mounts I need to get to bolt this thing in correctly since I am not sure if there is a difference in the 460 blocks from a 71 lincoln compared to those from a truck? I need help from those more knoweladgeable than me on this issue so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also, are there any other things I should be aware of in doing this swap with a 460 from a 71 lincoln regarding transmission issues, headers or anything of importance? Thanks in advance for any help and info. This sight is great for information!

 

429/460 are a different engine family than 360/390's. The 460 won't bolt up to a 360 bell housing. You would need a C-6 for a 460 to do this swap. Car exhaust manifolds also are different from trucks and have clearance problems with the passenger side frame.

There are other things you will need to know and others will have their input. Mainly you can't use your existing C-6 as it has a different bolt pattern where it mates to the engine.

 

Thanks for the info OldStyle.
Technically I could just change the bell housing and still use the C6 I have, correct? Regarding the exhaust manifolds...I am assuming I would be better off getting manifolds for an FE series 460?...I know on some of the broncos I have had in the past with 351s I was able to use headers from older 5.0 mustangs with 351s in them...are manifolds/headers for the 460s interchangeable like that also?

Will the aftermarket frame/motor mounts that are made for this year 2WD truck work with the Lincoln 460 blocks? As I go through and read more stuff in the forums it seems the Camper Specials have some different issues in regards to mounting and manifold/header clearance....if anyone can shed more light on the issue it would be appreciated.
I apologize in advance if some of this has been covered already in a previous thread....I have been working my way through them over the past week.

 

I used the term 'bell housing" for lack of a better word. A C-6 doesn't have a separate bell housing. It is a cast piece. Different castings for yours versus the one needed for the 460.

You need 460 truck exhaust manifolds.

There are no FE series 460's. FE's are a different family of engines, that's why they don't bolt up to either a 460 bell housing or 460 C-6.
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74 2nd on oldstyles info completly right also you will have to compare oil filter mounts the car may be a differnt angle than the trucks [again due to front crossmember design] and the front sump oilpan may have the drain hole on the front side instead of on the rear so oil changes may be messy also make sure to get all the pullys that came with this motor as i can be tough to find and install mis-matched due to lineing them up so the belts stay on any factory frame mounts from 73 to 79 trucks for the 460 will work as there is a set of 3 holes on top of the frame and depending on whitch motor/trans you are useing [all engines from the 302 to the 460] will bolt in with the right mounts try to find factory mounts if you can if you have air cond that may allso be another issue as the cars used a pump mounted more on the side than on the top with a big l bracket the truck has personaly i would look for a 460 equiped parts truck that way you have every thing you need and you can see how every thing goes together be for ripping it apart hope this helps

 

That helps out quite a bit. The guy I bought the engine from was building it for a mud buggy truck he was building but then decided to go a different route...that being said the engine is built really well but he was not even sure what the block had originally come out of (he had 4 or 5 more 460 blocks sitting outside his garage) and I just found out myself this week when I ran the numbers on the block. Of course due to all of this none of the pulleys were available. Any hints on the best place to find or purchase those parts or will it be a junk yard search?

The engine already has a rear sump oil pan so I should be good to go there, and I was figuring that might be the case with the oil filter. When I change out the C6, will I have to have my drive shaft adjusted to fit? Thanks again for all of the help guys, and sorry for all of the questions....I just want to get this done right the first time!

 

I got my hands on a C6 for $100 that came from a truck with a 460. I do not know the specifics of what it came from other than what I have stated and I am not sure if it was the original set up for the truck or if it was put it after the fact but it should still work with the 460 I got from the 71 lincoln right? Any help with details would be helpful. We used the dust cover to see if the bolt patterns lined up and all holes lined up on the top but there were 2 holes on the bottom that did not. Actually it was as if the holes were not drilled in the right place on the dust cover. Can we just drill the holes and use it the same or am I going to need a different transmission?

 

all c-6 transmissions are the same other than the bell housing and the only bolt holes that mater are the ones to mate up the block. the dust cover isnt a huge issue, just drill it out for them. i do belive thet the origional starter from your 360 will work thee only problem may bee the number of teeth on the 360 flexplate may be more/less than the 460s someone else may be to enlighten you farther on this.
the oil filters are in the same location on both blocks and you will just need the motor mounts
for the mounts, jeffs bronco grave yard makes a nice swap mount for this swap and i believe it eses the same holes as the 360 on the frame i weould suggest these, they are the ones i got when i bought my truck and they are really nice
Good luck! and post up progress

 

It has been a while since I have posted guys but I have been gathering parts and I am close to getting this thing in. I found a donor truck, 77 F350, with a 460 and a C6 trans. I am using the trans from this truck along with the brackets and pulleys.
What I am needing to know will help with the last little bit of this puzzle. We kept the towers from the F350 but I have my original towers from my 74 of course. Will my original towers work or is there any benefit to swapping out the towers for the one from the F350? Also, what are the best motor mounts to use for this swap? I have been searching on some of the other forums but most of what I have read has been in regards to 4x4 swaps and mine is a 2WD.
I have been looking at the L&L mounts but I have read where people have been having issues with them separating. The Transdapt mounts look pretty good but they look similar to the L&L mounts others have complained about. Transdapt also has the "all steel" mount but for a daily drive I would think in would cause too much vibration. I called JBG about the heavy duty mounts they offer but they could not tell me whether or not they would be compatible with my 74 2WD. Anyone have some advice on what the best tower/motor mount combination will be for this 74 F250 camper special? This is hopefully the last piece of the puzzle!

 

You're going by the block casting number to ID the engine as a 1971 Lincoln 460?

SAME block casting number: D1VE-6059-AB =

1971/73 Ford/Merc/Thunderbird 429

1971/78 Lincoln/Continental Mark III/IV/V 460 / 1972/76 Thunderbird 460 / 1973/78 Ford/Merc Passenger Car 460 / 1973/78 & some 1979 F100/350 460 / 1975/78 & some 1979 E250/350 460

429/460 share the same block, the bore is the same, the stroke is different. Measure the stroke to determine if it's a 460...or not: 429 = 3.59" / 460 = 3.85"
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Bell Housing = Manual Transmission / Converter Housing = Automatic Transmission, but the C6 has the converter housing made as part of the transmission case.

So you cannot use a C6 from an FE engine with any other engine family.

 

NumberDummy, thank you for the information regarding the block numbers and yes, it is actually a 460, not a 429.

 

I hope you measured the stroke to verify, because private sellers, just like used/new car dealers, lawyers, politicians and TV evangelists all lie like rugs!

 

Most definitely! Everything was verified prior to purchase along with receipts and proof of work that was stated as being done. All in all we seem to have come out good with all things being legit!

 

I did a swap with a lincon 460 as well. As mottimouse mentioned, the oil filter does mount in a slightly different location, and may have female threads instead of male threads. Mine was that way, so I had to use an angled adapter.

As for pulleys, I was able to mismatch the car pulleys with the truck pulleys with no problems.


Jameson

 

Just wanted to update from earlier...I went ahead and ordered the TransDapt universal swap motor mounts (4226). Based on what I had read these were good motor mounts and should bolt up without much issue. Thank you for the info and I will keep things posted...we hope to have the truck running by Christmas and I hope to have a new "old" daily driver.