Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Bumpsides Ford Truck

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #46  
Old 05-18-2012, 04:05 PM
scottfreeman's Avatar
scottfreeman scottfreeman is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cascade, ID
Posts: 785
scottfreeman is starting off with a positive reputation.
That may be just the answer to my dilemmas. I have 3 bumpsides.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-28-2012, 08:57 AM
78f3504x4's Avatar
78f3504x4 78f3504x4 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Whately, Ma
Posts: 899
78f3504x4 is starting off with a positive reputation.
great build
__________________
68F2504x4
71F1004x4
95 F250 supercab PSD, 37s, Dana 60 front swap
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 05-28-2012, 11:26 AM
Ford_Six's Avatar
Ford_Six Ford_Six is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Washington
Posts: 16,556
Ford_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputation
I wish I knew about the Suburban tank before, I just scrapped an 85 Suburban diesel a few months ago. Oh well, I built a 67gallon tank that sits at the front of the bed.
The GM sending unit works the opposite of the Ford I believe. It may work if you remember that the empty and full sides are reversed, or you can just run off mileage. Maybe start out with an idea of your low-end mileage vs tank capacity, put a post-it on the dash to get gas at xxx miles, and refine it from there.
__________________
Jared
Real trucks have the key on the left
FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 05-28-2012, 11:55 AM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
You are correct on the fuel gauge situation. Unfortunately I already bought a Ford/Dodge aftermarket fuel gauge. I am going to have to buy a aftermarket Chevy one now and save the one I already bought for something else or sell it.

I will likely use the 31 gallon tank. I want the extra capacity because I live in a remote area with long stretches between fuel stations. If I head out in the desert for the weekend, I don't want to have to worry about running out of fuel. I definitely will need to build a skid plate to protect the fuel tank from taking hits.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 06-08-2012, 09:55 AM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
I looked into the 40 gallon suburban gas tank. There are two part numbers listed.

Dorman part number 576-348
Dorman part number 576-349

Click the image to open in full size.

Unfortunately, these tanks measure 35" x 28-3/4" x 13-1/8"

They don't really hang much lower than the 31 gallon, but that is because they are a larger dimension to start with. From what I can see, they are not going to fit a 67-72 Highboy. They are 3/4" too wide

The 31 gallon 28" X 28" X 13" Suburban gas tank is going to be the way to go.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 06-08-2012, 07:56 PM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
Went over to my buddies house again today to look at his Suburban tank. He has two 40 gallon tanks and they both measure 28 X 35 X 13 What is up with that? Maybe the Dorman replacement tank is a slightly larger dimension? His tanks are definitely a stock chevrolet tanks and would definitely fit between the 67-72 Ford frame rails.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 06-12-2012, 12:09 AM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
Spent the last couple of weeks working on the grocery getters Fuel pump, timing belt, motor mount, etc... Enough said - back to the fun stuff.

I have successfully assembled all the parts needed to rebuild the 14 bolt axle and do a disk brake conversion. Here are the parts I am using for the disk brake conversion:

Click the image to open in full size.

Bolt on caliper brackets from Ruff Stuff Specialties (they came with bolts) - $50 pair

1977 3/4 Ton K20 Chevy truck stuff:
Rotors - $60 pair
Calipers - $70 pair (had to eat the core charge you know)
Brake Pads - $35
Hardware Kit - $4
Wheel Studs - $45

Here are the wheel studs that I decided to go with. Dorman Part #610-301.1 There is no perfect wheel stud for this conversion, but this is as close as it gets. They are about $2.60 at Auto Zone.

Click the image to open in full size.

Also removed the rear cross member and getting ready to mount it in the rear. I am headed to the Pick and Pull tomorrow. Maybe I will find a nice Suburban tank waiting for me

Click the image to open in full size.

Axle Rebuild is scheduled for Friday. I will make sure and document it for you guys.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 06-12-2012, 07:35 AM
crazed87bronco's Avatar
crazed87bronco crazed87bronco is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 3,219
crazed87bronco is starting off with a positive reputation.
why do you need different wheel studs? shouldn't the old ones be able to be knocked out and put back in? did you get the brake calipers with a e brake or not? i just put a 14 bolt in my 71 crew the other week and will be converting it to disc brakes when i get to the brakes on my truck. very interested in what you come up with for the gas tank i want more capacity then what the in cab tank holds and am searching for some ways to go about adding a tank ill be reading along to see what you come up with
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 06-13-2012, 01:28 AM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazed87bronco View Post
why do you need different wheel studs? shouldn't the old ones be able to be knocked out and put back in? did you get the brake calipers with a e brake or not? i just put a 14 bolt in my 71 crew the other week and will be converting it to disc brakes when i get to the brakes on my truck. very interested in what you come up with for the gas tank i want more capacity then what the in cab tank holds and am searching for some ways to go about adding a tank ill be reading along to see what you come up with
The stock wheel studs will be a little short for aluminum style rims and allow a little slop in the rotor. The stock studs work in some instances, but I am going to be running aluminum beadlock rims and needed a little extra length. The 610-301 wheel stud also is a better fit for the miss matched hub / rotor.

No, I didn't get the calipers with the mechanical e-brake option. I am planning on line locking the brake system instead. It won't be a big deal because I am running a manual transmission anyway and can leave the truck in gear.

I tried to find a Suburban gas tank at the pick and pull today. They had three Suburbans. The problem - they drill holes in the gas tank to drain the fuel when the vehicle arrives. I am going to check with a few other wrecking yards for a gas tank. If that doesn't work out, I am going to buy a new 31 gallon tank. All the tanks I saw on the Suburbans at Pick and Pull were 40 gallon.

On the bright side - I scored a divorced NP205 transfer case at Pick and Pull
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 06-13-2012, 07:50 AM
crazed87bronco's Avatar
crazed87bronco crazed87bronco is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 3,219
crazed87bronco is starting off with a positive reputation.
thanks for the info good to know when i get my brakes i'm gonna go with eldorado calipers i want to have a e brake because i have a stick shift wish the nv4500 had a e brake on the back of the trans like the zf5 i got has ill be getting to my rear fuel tank as soon as i find a bed to replace mine ill pull it off and figure out the gas tank situation since its right there nice find on the np205 im still looking for one hoping to get that in the next couple weeks with a dana 60
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 06-15-2012, 01:38 AM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
Began the axle rebuild tonight by pressing the bearings into the hubs Here are the steps to rebuild the 14 Bolt Axle - Part 1:

Insert the bearing and race from the backside of the hub with the bearing cone facing toward the inside of the hub. Press the bearing race into place. I like to spray a little WD-40 on the hub surface before inserting the race and pressing things into place so that everything slides in smoothly.

Click the image to open in full size.

Insert the lock ring retainer over the race after pressing it. There will likely be some slop between the race and the retainer. After the lock ring retainer is seated, flip the hub over and press the bearing and race back a small distance so that it seats against the lock ring.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.

Press the upper bearing race into place so that the bearing cone faces the center of the hub (bearings should have the cones pointing at each other). Insert the bearing into the race once it is seated and press the seal in. Lube the seal with a little axle grease.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 06-15-2012, 10:01 PM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
14 Bolt Axle Rebuild Part 2:

Inserted the wheel studs (610-301) into the Rotor / Hub assembly. I applied Loctite to the studs before I pressed them through. While these studs worked nicely, there wasn't a lot of bite when I pressed them in.

Click the image to open in full size.

Complete Rotor / Hub assembly with wheel studs

Click the image to open in full size.

I spent the rest of the day torching off the spring & shock perches and shaving the housing. This was considerably more time consuming than I expected. Here she is so far

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 06-16-2012, 11:58 AM
napass2004 napass2004 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: riverside ca
Posts: 307
napass2004 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Wow looks great awesome project
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 06-16-2012, 10:57 PM
1972RedNeck's Avatar
1972RedNeck 1972RedNeck is online now
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Townsend, MT
Posts: 2,270
1972RedNeck is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanhablitzel View Post
I looked into the 40 gallon suburban gas tank.

Unfortunately, these tanks measure 35" x 28-3/4" x 13-1/8"

They don't really hang much lower than the 31 gallon, but that is because they are a larger dimension to start with. From what I can see, they are not going to fit a 67-72 Highboy. They are 3/4" too wide
Aren't those measurements to the edge of the flanges? I know for a fact OEM 40 gallon tanks fit.
__________________
1966 F250 4X4 416 Clark 280V
1990 F350 4X4 4BTA E4OD
Quote:
Originally Posted by HIO Silver View Post
Why polish a turd?
Quote:
Originally Posted by HIO Silver View Post
Be wary of LMC even though they are a source.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy_Eater View Post
Ah, yes, the 460 phenomena, once Al Gore invented the internet the 460 found a place it could get double digit fuel economy.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 06-17-2012, 12:30 AM
ryanhablitzel's Avatar
ryanhablitzel ryanhablitzel is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Castle Valley
Posts: 173
ryanhablitzel is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck View Post
Aren't those measurements to the edge of the flanges? I know for a fact OEM 40 gallon tanks fit.
I guess the only way to find out is to call Dorman and ask their tech department what the actual measurements are. It looks like the other aftermarket manufactures measure 28 3/4" also. If it comes down to ordering one of these, I will likely have to call the manufacture to have them physically verify the dimension.

I agree with you, the OEM 40 gallon will definitely fit. My friend has two of them and they measure 28" wide including the flanges.
__________________
"Then I heard the Lord asking, 'Whom should I send as a messenger to this people? Who will go for us?' I said, 'Here I am. Send me.'" ~ Isaiah 6:8
Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2012, 12:30 AM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ch-ch-ch-changes 96sherm Manitoba / Saskatchewan Chapter 116 02-16-2013 05:24 PM
1979 F350 4x4 Find ryanhablitzel 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 9 12-13-2012 02:58 AM
The Cooter Chronicles...an Update Cooter55 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 19 05-23-2011 01:17 PM
The Cooter Chronicles Continue...Tales from the Darkside Cooter55 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 15 04-09-2011 01:01 PM
What the Heck did I do wrong??? Cooter55 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 21 11-08-2010 05:29 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks

Tags
1970, 1970s, 4x4, 59l, bronco, conversion, cummins, f100, f250, florida, ford, pics, swap, truck, trucks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup