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Referring to the comment of the turbo motors and cai
 
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So was I. The two motors (along with the technology used to control them) is totally different.

But hey, it's yer truck and yer money. If you really want an warmer-air-than-stock-under-the-hood-bling-intake, go for it.
 
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LOL Tim - we're saying the same thing.

If I could rep ya', I would.
LMAO! After I wrote it and went off to work, I thought, what a bafoon I must sound like.
 
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The EcoBoost doesn't have a MAF sensor (mass air flow), it has speed density so the engine has pre-set ECM parameters. If there were to be any power increases with a CAI, it would be negligible at best. A tune would be needed along with an intake. My personal opinion on this is that the 3.5 is being pushed to high limits and I would be afraid of engine damage trying to push the power too high.
 
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If you really want an warmer-air-than-stock-under-the-hood-bling-intake, go for it.
I've been struggling trying to think of that acronym as I read through this thread...WATSUHBI. Thanks for reminding me.
 
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Originally Posted by efx4
The EcoBoost doesn't have a MAF sensor (mass air flow), it has speed density so the engine has pre-set ECM parameters. If there were to be any power increases with a CAI, it would be negligible at best. A tune would be needed along with an intake. My personal opinion on this is that the 3.5 is being pushed to high limits and I would be afraid of engine damage trying to push the power too high.
Do the 6.2 and 5.0 have speed density sensors or MAF?
 
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I wouldn't do it either, especially on a turbo motor. Funny thing, I was in the dealer yesterday having my oil changed and this guy started chatting with me. He had a brand new mustang GT and was having the dealer install a chip and open air element. He said it was all Ford and it didn't void the warranty??? I didn't realize they did that stuff.
On this topic...my ex-wife had a 73 Ford Maverick Grabber when we met with a 302 and the dealer had installed an Edlebrock manifold along with a 4 barrel Holley carb on the engine because she wanted more "go" when she mashed the pedal.
It would "go" too!
 
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Do the 6.2 and 5.0 have speed density sensors or MAF?
They have MAF sensors.
 
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I respectfully disagree with your handling of the blown head gaskets and with your view of the potential warranty issues.

The following is just MY OPINION: With regards to the blown gaskets, you basically stole money from Ford. Taking the system off after the event was your attempt to cover up your mistake because you knew it was wrong. Your modifications caused the failure; you should have paid the full amount.

With regard to the after market intake, Ford (not the dealer) will deny the claim (it has never been the dealer's option as the dealer is not paying for the repair). There have already been Special Service Messages to dealer shops regarding modifications to the EB engine how ANY modifications will void the engine warranty.

Ford has way too much invested in the EB engine to allow high warranty claims.

End of my opinion.

As I said, things are a lot different now. I did not try to lie about how it happened, they were known to repair about anything under warranty. My friend went thru 6 t-5's (because he can't drive a stick very good) before they told him no more!! No I do not condone warranty fraud in any way. I in no way lied or tried to hide anything from them. I was honest about how it happened and they opted on their own to fix it.
In regards to the the original post, the law prohibits them from voiding any warranty from using aftermarket parts unless they can prove that the aftermarket piece caused said failure.

Just because Ford put a certain part on a truck, doesn't mean it's the best for every owner. They have to try to keep it quiet for the pansy owners who are afraid of a little noise. Well, this turbulence caused by the chambers added to reduce intake noise, cause a few ponies in the process. Same with exhaust and the mushy oem shifts in modern transmissions. You can't please everyone and this is why the aftermarket is out there.
CAI's work best with a better flowing exhaust and a good aftermarket tune.

My truck gets better mpg on the 93 octane tune from my Diablosport Predator that more then offsets the $.020 a gal over 87. the added power is nice when needed as well.
 
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Originally Posted by efx4
The EcoBoost doesn't have a MAF sensor (mass air flow), it has speed density so the engine has pre-set ECM parameters. If there were to be any power increases with a CAI, it would be negligible at best. A tune would be needed along with an intake. My personal opinion on this is that the 3.5 is being pushed to high limits and I would be afraid of engine damage trying to push the power too high.
EcoBoost uses a mass air sensor. Speed density will work with forced induction (MegaSquirt stand alone EFI system uses it) but mass air is much more flexible.

It uses forged pistons, rods, and crank, with 6 bolt cross-bolted mains. You could probably add 200hp (just a SWAG) to the engine before you'd have to start thinking about beefing up the bottom end. You'd be limited by the fuel injectors well before you got to that point, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for aftermarket injectors for this engine to hit the market.
 
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