6.0L Excessive smoke, Intermittent
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They have great prices for the OEM brand filters. Racor is the manufacturer for the filters and then Motocraft slaps their brand on them.
For normal vehicles, the Napa gold filters are great, but for this engine design, the OEM cap and filter are the best.
Mine had an aftermarket cap and filter, and after I switched back to the OEM, you do notice the engine running smoother, starts easier, and various other improvements.
They have great prices for the OEM brand filters. Racor is the manufacturer for the filters and then Motocraft slaps their brand on them.
For normal vehicles, the Napa gold filters are great, but for this engine design, the OEM cap and filter are the best.
Mine had an aftermarket cap and filter, and after I switched back to the OEM, you do notice the engine running smoother, starts easier, and various other improvements.
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On the oil filters, I think the deal is Ford and Raycor ( the actual manufacturer) have been very "protective" of the patents on these filters. The aftermarket responded by fudging the dimensions and slightly changing the design. Many if not all of the aftermarket designs have a problem either not closing the drain back valve in the bottom of the filter housing, not keeping the bypass valve closed on the top of the standpipe, or not sealing properly around the base of the standpipe. To make matters worse, most of the aftermarket caps are taller and if you put a Motorcraft/ Raycor filter under one of these caps it can float up and down inside the filter housing and have ALL the problems mentioned above!
All that being said, I don't think that or the fuel pressure spring is causing your smoking problem. I would pull the EGR valve and inspect and clean it first just because it's easier, and then check the down pipe for signs of oil. That should get you started down the right path. Good luck with it!
Oh yea, if you use solvent on the EGR valve, be careful not to get any in the two little holes on the underside of the electrical end.
All that being said, I don't think that or the fuel pressure spring is causing your smoking problem. I would pull the EGR valve and inspect and clean it first just because it's easier, and then check the down pipe for signs of oil. That should get you started down the right path. Good luck with it!
Oh yea, if you use solvent on the EGR valve, be careful not to get any in the two little holes on the underside of the electrical end.
Last edited by Rusty Axlerod; 03-07-2012 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Add
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Alright so here it is. Truck was NOT smoking before service, Changed back to a motorcraft filter and cap. Started it up right after the oil change so the engine was still warm. Truck instantly blow blue smoke!! So that blew the filter idea out of the water. I then pulled the EGR out, It wasnt clogged as bad as the pictures Ive seen on the internet. I replaced it anyhow. Started the truck and the truck still smoked, but not as it was. So I decided to take the truck for a good hard run. (Im a HYD mechanic, and I try my best to maintain our fleet trucks, and I don't drive them alot) Anyways after I put the coal to her, the smoking cleared up, just regular exhaust..... Going to tell the guys to drive it like they stole it, see if it stay clean. I havent looked at the turbo.
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Here's the video that was mentioned earlier. Raycor makes the filter used by Motorcraft and designed both the oil and fuel filtration systems on the 6.0.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFXd2KRB4Qo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFXd2KRB4Qo
#26
Low Boost with Black Smoke sounds like an overfuel condition
20 PSI Boost is on the Low Side of things so this kinda starts pointing to the turbo or sensors that the PCM uses to control the Turbo or a CAC System Leak or even an uppipe Leak
Im wondering if a sensor is starting to go out
At KOEO check EBP & MAP & Baro sensor values they need to be within 0.5psi of eachother ay KOEO
If nothing comes up with the above^^^^^^^ then it would be worth Cleaning the MAP & EBP Sensors and Tubes they can get clogged with soot
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#29
Right on ^^^^^^^^^^^
Baro is a Pressure sensor it sets the Baseline for the other pressure sensors like MAP&EBP
these 3 are used to determine Boost output or for the PCM
Basicaly to determine what position the VGT should be in to regulate the Turbo veins/Boost output and maybe the EGR Valve position Im not 100% shure on EGR Valve though
ACRONYMS FORD
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/821641-acronyms.html
#30
Alright so here it is. Truck was NOT smoking before service, Changed back to a motorcraft filter and cap. Started it up right after the oil change so the engine was still warm. Truck instantly blow blue smoke!! So that blew the filter idea out of the water. I then pulled the EGR out, It wasnt clogged as bad as the pictures Ive seen on the internet. I replaced it anyhow. Started the truck and the truck still smoked, but not as it was. So I decided to take the truck for a good hard run. (Im a HYD mechanic, and I try my best to maintain our fleet trucks, and I don't drive them alot) Anyways after I put the coal to her, the smoking cleared up, just regular exhaust..... Going to tell the guys to drive it like they stole it, see if it stay clean. I havent looked at the turbo.
after a couple of short trips it smokes from 100-150F. I can rev the motor a few times and the smoke essentially disappears
No oil consumption
No water disappearing
Take it out for a longer trip and cycle the turbo some...it won't blow blue smoke for almost a week. I'm pretty sure my issue is caused by CCV (Crank Case ventilation) causing oil to pool in the intake. After several short trips enough collects that it pools and gets into the cylinders. Running her hard cleans that oil out
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