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I learned a good trick when doing mine. I put a 1/4" bit in my drill press and was going to drill some holes in the rubber to make the old bushings easier to get out. On the second hole to my surprise the drill bit caught and walked all the way around between the rubber and the link (I didn't have it clamped). The bushings come right out when you do this.
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Tom, didja get a chance to drive without the front anti-sway bar connected? It's a hoot, but not too fast. Off road is truly amazing the flex the Ex allows with that long wheel base.
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Tom, didja get a chance to drive without the front anti-sway bar connected? It's a hoot, but not too fast. Off road is truly amazing the flex the Ex allows with that long wheel base.

Oh yeah! With the front bar disconnected (to verify loss of noises) the ride became somewhat more "Lively" and that was with the rear bar still attached! I can only imagine how exciting it would be with both bars off! When I finally get all of my suspension tweeking done and new tires on I'll have to remember to unhook both bars and get some serious poser flex shots!
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I learned a good trick when doing mine. I put a 1/4" bit in my drill press and was going to drill some holes in the rubber to make the old bushings easier to get out. On the second hole to my surprise the drill bit caught and walked all the way around between the rubber and the link (I didn't have it clamped). The bushings come right out when you do this.

Sounds like that may have been exciting the first time! Not sure if our bushings were the same, my old ones were metal to metal at the mating area, and the squishy bits were all inside the the old bushing just around the inner bolt tube.
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Not the best pic but here you can see where the old ones were metal around the outer diameter.
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I've had some real thrills with the drillpress grabbing onto things, I actually bent a 3/4" bit AND chuck when a plate I was drilling came free of the vice as the bit grabbed when punching through. Very exciting!
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I wonder if PST has a version of these bushings. They claim their graphite impregnated bushings don't squeak like Energy's do.
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LOL! No wonder they were so tight! Well they are on there now, I'll have to see if they keep looking OK, if they start to squish out or something I'll order up the 4MM larger ones.
Yes....Energy does not have a proper kit for the Ex.......you need the F250 kit......and the 36mm bar bushings for the Ex........with some luck you'll have a use for the extra 32mm bar bushings left over.
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Just wondering......did you concider OEM parts?
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Most people avoid the OEM because they are not as durable as the urethane. I would never go through the hassle of pressing OEM bushings that only last ~100k miles when for the same price or less you could get some nice plastics that are (supposedly) more durable and unquestionably easier to install.
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Most people avoid the OEM because they are not as durable as the urethane. I would never go through the hassle of pressing OEM bushings that only last ~100k miles when for the same price or less you could get some nice plastics that are (supposedly) more durable and unquestionably easier to install.
Thanks AGGIE...I've been told I need new sway bar end links which I presume are also known as drag links. Ford will replace for $273. You think thats a good price or should I do it myself and save a few bucks? Also, do you really have to change the links for new ones? or can you just swap out the bushings? While we are at it, do you know anything about replacing front hub dust shields? I've got a '01 F-250 SD Lariat. Trucks only got 60K miles on it. I baby her, not a work truck. Bought 'er brandy new. Thanks Bud
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Thanks AGGIE...I've been told I need new sway bar end links which I presume are also known as drag links. Ford will replace for $273. You think thats a good price or should I do it myself and save a few bucks? Also, do you really have to change the links for new ones? or can you just swap out the bushings? While we are at it, do you know anything about replacing front hub dust shields? I've got a '01 F-250 SD Lariat. Trucks only got 60K miles on it. I baby her, not a work truck. Bought 'er brandy new. Thanks Bud
The drag link is a steering linkage which connects the tie rod to the pitman arm. At least, that's the only drag link I'm aware of. I changed that too and it wasn't bad...but I digress.

I would be SHOCKED if the end links needed replacement. That is some high quality (spring? probably spring) steel. More likely, Ford won't mess with replacing the bushings since it's easier to just remove and replace the entire end link.

See, the rubber OEM bushings inside the end links are what wears out from the constant compression cycling. My bushings were shot. Removing the end link is trivial (two bolts, no jacking required). Removing the bushing is a PITA. Still any shop has a hydraulic press and it makes the job a cake walk.

My bushings required 6-10 tons to press out. I tried doing it myself and it just wasn't gonna happen. I finally took it to a local shop press I have access too and it took 5 minutes.

My Energy Suspension kit was ~$35 shipped and came with all the necessary stuff. My only problem was one of my bolts was rusted to the inner bushing. These bolts are tapered and not easily replaced by another 1/2" (i think) grade 8 bolt...I tried!

I finally extracted the last pesky bolt and we were off to the races. Without the hiccups I had, and a shop press, this is an hour or two job.

So is it worth doing yourself? Yes. I certainly wouldn't pay $240 for that, even after the hell I put myself through.

If you don't want to hassle with the press or you suspect the end links are bad (doubtful but maybe), you could buy a new set of end links with urethane bushings for around $85 bucks a piece I think. Then it's a trivial R&R and you still save money with a better product!


As far as the hubs go, I've yet to service mine. I should've done it with the brakes but it's still on my list to do. Without any experience on these, I will refrain from issuing faulty advice...even the areas I have experience I offer only questionable advice. Caveat Emptor!
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If you don't want to hassle with the press or you suspect the end links are bad (doubtful but maybe), you could buy a new set of end links with urethane bushings for around $85 bucks a piece I think. Then it's a trivial R&R and you still save money with a better product!

I found the Moog brand on Amazon for about $55 per side for the whole end link without having to press out the bushings.
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I found the Moog brand on Amazon for about $55 per side for the whole end link without having to press out the bushings.
Even better! Thanks for holdin' out on me Scott!
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