Who makes PM-22 for Motorcraft
#1
Who makes PM-22 for Motorcraft
Many say Stanadyne. I posted the MSDS links in the now closed thread; the MSDS sheets did not even seem close to me for PM-22-A and Stanadyne Performance formula.
All fuel additives have to be registered with the EPA.
Alphabetical List of Registered Diesel Additives | US EPA
If you search the list a company called Gold Eagle Co has the old
PM-17 and PM-18 listed, along with Power Stroke spelled Powerstrike. #2399 & #2400
You can also find Ford listed at #2107.
You can find a COC for Motorcraft here that list Gold Eagle Co and CCI for chemicals; (most of rest of document is car seats I think); never specifically calls out PM-22 though.
The code date on my bottles doesn't match the Gold Eadle Co description.
So I don't have the answer
The EPA link does have Carquest, NAPA, & Wix listed under Stanadyne.
Bob
All fuel additives have to be registered with the EPA.
Alphabetical List of Registered Diesel Additives | US EPA
If you search the list a company called Gold Eagle Co has the old
PM-17 and PM-18 listed, along with Power Stroke spelled Powerstrike. #2399 & #2400
You can also find Ford listed at #2107.
You can find a COC for Motorcraft here that list Gold Eagle Co and CCI for chemicals; (most of rest of document is car seats I think); never specifically calls out PM-22 though.
The code date on my bottles doesn't match the Gold Eadle Co description.
So I don't have the answer
The EPA link does have Carquest, NAPA, & Wix listed under Stanadyne.
Bob
#2
http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricant...n/pdf/cpsc.pdf
Left out the COC link and last time I tried to add on in Edit mode it didn't work.
Bob
Left out the COC link and last time I tried to add on in Edit mode it didn't work.
Bob
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#4
A container manufacture can make a product that is used by many companies, like plastic soda bottles. The Ford MSDS on PM22 lists Chemtech as the supplier.
#5
The MSDS lists Chemtrec; not Chemtech. Chemtrec is listed on many different companies MSDS sheets. They are simply a company that is a contracted service to manage the MSDS and the telephone call if someone needs information.
Gold Eagle has a section on private labeling product and since they must have been the previous provider for the PM-17 and PM-18 it would seem high probability they are the current provider. Even if they are the provider it doesn't mean that they simply relabel an existing product; it could still be a custom blend per Ford's chemical engineering. Code dates on bottles can even be custom to the branded company's specifications.
Gold Eagle's MSDS sheets have to be requested (which can be done on-line); they are not readily available on-line for display; although I found a couple for non diesel fuel additives posted on end vendor sites.
Off topic, what is interesting is that I cannot find Opti-lube or Centurion Lubes, etc. listed on the EPA site of registered additives for diesel fuel.
Bob
Gold Eagle has a section on private labeling product and since they must have been the previous provider for the PM-17 and PM-18 it would seem high probability they are the current provider. Even if they are the provider it doesn't mean that they simply relabel an existing product; it could still be a custom blend per Ford's chemical engineering. Code dates on bottles can even be custom to the branded company's specifications.
Gold Eagle's MSDS sheets have to be requested (which can be done on-line); they are not readily available on-line for display; although I found a couple for non diesel fuel additives posted on end vendor sites.
Off topic, what is interesting is that I cannot find Opti-lube or Centurion Lubes, etc. listed on the EPA site of registered additives for diesel fuel.
Bob
#6
The MSDS lists Chemtrec; not Chemtech. Chemtrec is listed on many different companies MSDS sheets. They are simply a company that is a contracted service to manage the MSDS and the telephone call if someone needs information.
Gold Eagle has a section on private labeling product and since they must have been the previous provider for the PM-17 and PM-18 it would seem high probability they are the current provider. Even if they are the provider it doesn't mean that they simply relabel an existing product; it could still be a custom blend per Ford's chemical engineering. Code dates on bottles can even be custom to the branded company's specifications.
Gold Eagle's MSDS sheets have to be requested (which can be done on-line); they are not readily available on-line for display; although I found a couple for non diesel fuel additives posted on end vendor sites.
Off topic, what is interesting is that I cannot find Opti-lube or Centurion Lubes, etc. listed on the EPA site of registered additives for diesel fuel.
Bob
Gold Eagle has a section on private labeling product and since they must have been the previous provider for the PM-17 and PM-18 it would seem high probability they are the current provider. Even if they are the provider it doesn't mean that they simply relabel an existing product; it could still be a custom blend per Ford's chemical engineering. Code dates on bottles can even be custom to the branded company's specifications.
Gold Eagle's MSDS sheets have to be requested (which can be done on-line); they are not readily available on-line for display; although I found a couple for non diesel fuel additives posted on end vendor sites.
Off topic, what is interesting is that I cannot find Opti-lube or Centurion Lubes, etc. listed on the EPA site of registered additives for diesel fuel.
Bob
Was quite easy finding the msds on optilube xpd it also lists chemtrec as a transportation emergency number to contact. 1-800-424-9300
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Agree with huntingdog. Cheezit said so on the other thread that I started. Just emperical recommendation on PM22A only for PSD 6.7 so far, without any real long term study or data to back up the emperical recommendation. Jury is still out. Regardless, Ford states that it is ok to use PM22A in their own Diesel supplement manual for 2012 models, so I would use it if I had to....with some reservation and reluctance. Really, we also need recommendation by Bosch to see if PM22A is ok to use with their HPFP, but so far no clear info available from them either. Facts only...facts...
Alas....It may just be that once again current PSD 6.7 owners who have been using PM22A are the beta testers for Ford/Bosch. Facts only...facts...
Who makes PM22A for Motorcarft? No facts....no facts...
Alas....It may just be that once again current PSD 6.7 owners who have been using PM22A are the beta testers for Ford/Bosch. Facts only...facts...
Who makes PM22A for Motorcarft? No facts....no facts...
#10
You won't find optilube on the epa site because they don't manufacture, their re-branders Lubrizol makes Opti-lube products. Also Chemtrec you see on the PM-22 MSDS listing is a clean up company.
#11
Agree with huntingdog. Cheezit said so on the other thread that I started. Just emperical recommendation on PM22A only for PSD 6.7 so far, without any real long term study or data to back up the emperical recommendation. Jury is still out. Regardless, Ford states that it is ok to use PM22A in their own Diesel supplement manual for 2012 models, so I would use it if I had to....with some reservation and reluctance. Really, we also need recommendation by Bosch to see if PM22A is ok to use with their HPFP, but so far no clear info available from them either. Facts only...facts...
Alas....It may just be that once again current PSD 6.7 owners who have been using PM22A are the beta testers for Ford/Bosch. Facts only...facts...
Who makes PM22A for Motorcarft? No facts....no facts...
Alas....It may just be that once again current PSD 6.7 owners who have been using PM22A are the beta testers for Ford/Bosch. Facts only...facts...
Who makes PM22A for Motorcarft? No facts....no facts...
Of course it adds lubricity...But at what cost to the DLC?
#12
"Non-Emergency (Technical) Response Protocol – CHEMTREC will serve as the company’s 24-hour response center, providing callers with information pertaining to specific consumer-related questions regarding the company’s product(s) using information provided by the company. "
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Good to know that Lubrizol is the manufacturer; thanks for the information.
Bob
#13
The main point is Chemtrec is not a manufacturer of additives; an additional service they provide (among several) is:
"Non-Emergency (Technical) Response Protocol – CHEMTREC will serve as the company’s 24-hour response center, providing callers with information pertaining to specific consumer-related questions regarding the company’s product(s) using information provided by the company. "
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Good to know that Lubrizol is the manufacturer; thanks for the information.
Bob
"Non-Emergency (Technical) Response Protocol – CHEMTREC will serve as the company’s 24-hour response center, providing callers with information pertaining to specific consumer-related questions regarding the company’s product(s) using information provided by the company. "
Other Services
Good to know that Lubrizol is the manufacturer; thanks for the information.
Bob
#15
Failure could well happen after the warranty is over.
I am of the opinion that since Ford by their own admission doesn't know whats in the pump, is just throwing the PM22A at it as a band aid. The only thing that they are sure it will do is improve the bottom line.