LOL..You are welcome sir, that is just one of the many reasons i love FTE....you can garner alot of knowledge from the diverse base of good people on this forum and they all love to help out when they can.

The EPA has been outdated for 30 years in my oppinion and they actually create more harm than good in this day and age.....to me they are the equivalent of PETA...absolutely good for nothing but stupidity and bad ideas.

 

PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals. Hahaha!!!

 

I've tossed around the idea of still'n my own fuel. A carb can be jetted and adjusted for alcohol so they, to me, are the ideal fuel delivery system. I used my hydrogen generator on a 98 Durango, but the results were spotty. Sometimes no increase, sometimes it was there. I am going to add more plates and try again in my 78 F-150 and check it out.
As for distilling my own alcohol... I am not going to do something for the sake of saving money, and then pay taxes and buy something to make it undrinkable. Sorry law, you don't make sense. This is not an episode of "Moonshiners". If I am not making money off of it, you will not make money off of me. The end.
I hope to see some of your guys ideas and tech in action. I'll be looking for threads. This could be better than Mythbusters.

 

Speaking of taxing ridiculous things, I was at the McD's drive thru last night, picking up stuff from the dollar menu (because I'm a broke *** college student) and I came up with a new dream...

I... have a dream... where things on the dollar menu are ONLY a dollar, not a $1.06! I have a dream of an America where I can go to a department store, pick up a product that's $4.99 and GET MY PENNY BACK instead of paying ANOTHER $0.29! I have a dream of an America where SALES TAX IS INCLUDED IN THE PRICE OF GOODS, NOT ADDED AFTER!

Enough of that rant.

When I move back to my hometown, I'm gonna start making my own fuel. I'm not paying any middle easterner my hard earned cash.

 

I may have been wrong on the tax and the introduction of an ingredient to make it undrinkable and for this i do sincerly apologize!

"More Ethanol Facts ... Making fuel to operate your car, truck, boat, or lawnmower has never been easier. Even if your car is not Flex Fuel or E-85 ready, we have a solution.
Distilling your own fuel is legal, with a no-fee permit issued by the Federal Government. Not only that, but you will qualify for a 38 to 60 cent per gallon Tax Refund for every gallon you distill.
We can show you how to produce gallons of fuel from a bushel of corn or a few pounds of sugar, and how to cut your fuel costs to as little as $1.20 a gallon or even less!

This being quoted directly from FuelDistillation.Com
Again i do apologize for the misinformation or possibility thereof.


Alcohol Fuel

The law states that alcohol produced at an Alcohol Fuel Plant (AFP) is restricted to be exclusively for fuel use. The law, however, does not contain a definition of fuel use. TTB interprets the term to mean only the use of alcohol in motor fuel products that decrease the U.S. reliance on petroleum.

Many More Uses

Ethanol has many uses other than just fuel. As a producer of ethanol you may also be eligible to sell to pharmaceutical companies, distillers and wineries. Fortified wine is wine with higher than usual ethanol content. Pure ethanol is sold for uses other than fuel at up to $70.00 per gallon!

 

I need to do alot more research but from what little i have done thus far i gather we are allowed to make as much as 10,000 gallons of fuel alcohol a year.

 

1 Bushel of wheat.........$7 1 BBL of oil $110 the way I see it it should be.... you want the wheat it's $110 a bushel don't like the price......... eat oil !!!! Popa John

 

Wow Just for kicks, only 6 cents on the dollar there? Over here in the Seattle area it's like 9.5 so the dollar menu is really the $1.10 menu.

On the 1st page you guys were discussing how 80s cars got better gas mileage. This is very true since econo-boxes were much lighter back then. They also didn't have all the safety equipment of modern car however. Things like crumple zones, airbags, side impact protection etc. all add substantial weight to the beasts of today. Believe me I'm saying it's right, just adding some explanation if anyone cares.

 

Two words for you.

Indian reservation.

No taxes on most Native American owned land - and that includes stores/restaurants. It is weird seeing a coke for $0.99, and getting the penny back, but it's awesome!

-Brad

 

Yeah, 6% in Michigan (I'm currently living about 10 min from the MI/WI border) and the closest McD's and Walmart and all that fancy stuff is in MI (along with school) so I hop the border on a daily basis. Not totally sure what it is in WI, don't really pay attention anymore, but I think it's 5%.

And yeah, my old man had an 87 Escort that he swore he got 40mpg in on a daily basis. He had an 85 Escort wagon with a 2.0l diesel and that got 50mpg with a dragging brake. I had an 87 Ranger 2wd that would pull 25mpg everywhere and still had enough ***** to stomp most other pickups.

Edit: That 87 Ranger had the 2.9 v6 in it and a 5 speed with a straight pipe.

 

My 87 4X4 Ranger work beater with the mighty 2.9 gets around 23 in the warmer months. The winter blend gasohol and frigid Colorado temps drops me into the 19-20 range.

Another funny EPA conundrum (I beleve that's a word)....

My dad's old 86 IDI F250 Diesel routinely got 20+ mpg highway

I had a 99 7.3 PS diesel that easily got 18-20 highway

My 2003 7.3 PS Diesel was around 17 highway

My 2005 6.0 PS Diesel (F250 with a service box 9900 pounds loaded) was around 15 highway. Although, with that truck I played around using Blue Sun Biodiesel and actually got 19 a couple times driving like a grandma.

None of the diesels had chips or turned up pumps or any aftermarket mods. Bone stock 4X4 trucks.

Josh

PS: As a side note I'm pretty tired of the backlash and smart remarks in regards to the 6.0 Powerstroke. My 6.0 had over 175,000 miles lugging a 9900+ pound service truck that routinely towed an 8000 lube trailer. Never, ever had a wrench on the engine except for filters and oil.

 

The 6.0 ain't a bad motor. I read an article about it and all you really have to do to fix the "problems" is a few minor things that need to be changed out for aftermarket stuff. Not totally sure on the details because I read said article about a half year ago.

Also, your 4x4 Ranger pulling 23mpg... How'd you do that? I had a 91 STX and the best I ever got with it was 16mpg and that was going 55mph. It also had the 2.9 and 5 speed.

 

Got me, I've only had the truck since last April. I'm hoping to up the MPG a little more since a couple weeks ago I finally swapped out the screaming FM145 5 speed for a smoother and quieter M5OD.

Josh