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Old 02-15-2012, 11:54 AM
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10,000 GVWR rating

Hi all; ready to pull the trigger on a SRW F350 KR gas but need to do the 10K option to save money on insurance. Really don't need to pull heavy.
My question, I was recently told this 10K GVWR truck is "different" than the 13K rated truck. Salesman says smaller radiator and trans cooler???? Never heard of this, anyone have any insight? thanks.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:12 PM
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Sounds like BS to me.

I have the 10k package, I thought the only difference was the springs for the 10k versus the heavy duty suspension package (13k). The sticker is a DOT rating.
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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snelldawg; yes I thought the only difference was just a DOT sticker with no other change to the truck. I guess no one really know's.....
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There's no difference according to the order guide. You just get a sticker saying 10k. I think the springs are even the same.

From the '12 order guide:

10,000 GVWR PACKAGE (68 D)
Availability:
• Optional on F-250/F-350 SRW
Includes:
• 9,900 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (F-250)
• 10,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (F-350 SRW)
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:44 PM
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^^^ what he said ^^^


Sometimes...it would really be nice that a sales person actually know the product they sell. OMG...that is criminal...IMHO.


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Old 02-17-2012, 07:37 PM
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My truck has the 10,000 GVWR, how is that supposed to benefit me?
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:53 PM
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It depends on your state's registration and inspection rules....it might or might not help you out. Insurance could also be a factor.
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It depends on your state's registration and inspection rules....it might or might not help you out. Insurance could also be a factor.
Registration is based on the curb weight of the vehicle, mine weighs about 6500 lbs, and is about $180 a year for the registration.

I will check with my insurance agent about it.

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Old 02-18-2012, 01:20 AM
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Here in PA truck weight class is based on GVRW. 10,000 is class 4A and costs $198 per year. 13,000 is class 5 and costs $243.
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Here in Comi land a new F350 will run you over $600.00 a year to register. Heck my 76 F250 still runs $212.00!
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The 10,000 GVWR option is there primarily to reduce the tax & registration burden to a purchaser who rarely uses the truck to its fullest rated capacity. It's the current follow-on to the "HD" designation given to a lot of F-250's back in the '90's where the truck had "one-ton" rated springs and suspension yet was officially rated as a 3/4-ton. So far, so good, right? Well, there's a trade-off…

Let's say that you have a single rear wheel F-350 optioned all the way out with every extra payload package the computer selects. Let's assume the truck weighs 7,000 pounds. Your cargo is a 3,500 pound slide-in camper. At 10,500 pounds you're below the rated capacity of the truck and all should be well. But if we add the 10,000 GVWR option then you are *technically* 500 pounds over the rated capacity of the truck. The truck can handle this load no problem, but it's not *rated* for it. Where this becomes a problem is if, God forbid, you end up in an accident with the truck which is no fault of your own and during the investigation it is found that you are over the rated capacity of the truck. It *could* be argued (in a court of law) that by being overweight you might be partially at fault for damages.

For the record I'm in favor of the 10K rating (if in your jurisdiction that's an advantage) but I just wanted to present the potential ramifications.

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It actually raises the GVWR of F250's, but lowers that of some F350's.

Go figure. Yes, you will save money on insurance and registration in states that do their fees by GVWR.

As for being sued for causing an accident, that is true.

You can also be sued for farting in a public place, and causing a panic in a movie theater by throwing popcorn.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything, it's just a question of how much money it will cost you to win (or lose).
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The 10,000 GVWR option is there primarily to reduce the tax & registration burden to a purchaser who rarely uses the truck to its fullest rated capacity. It's the current follow-on to the "HD" designation given to a lot of F-250's back in the '90's where the truck had "one-ton" rated springs and suspension yet was officially rated as a 3/4-ton. So far, so good, right? Well, there's a trade-off…

Let's say that you have a single rear wheel F-350 optioned all the way out with every extra payload package the computer selects. Let's assume the truck weighs 7,000 pounds. Your cargo is a 3,500 pound slide-in camper. At 10,500 pounds you're below the rated capacity of the truck and all should be well. But if we add the 10,000 GVWR option then you are *technically* 500 pounds over the rated capacity of the truck. The truck can handle this load no problem, but it's not *rated* for it. Where this becomes a problem is if, God forbid, you end up in an accident with the truck which is no fault of your own and during the investigation it is found that you are over the rated capacity of the truck. It *could* be argued (in a court of law) that by being overweight you might be partially at fault for damages.

For the record I'm in favor of the 10K rating (if in your jurisdiction that's an advantage) but I just wanted to present the potential ramifications.

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On the F250 the GVWR is 9,900 lbs, the 10,000 GVWR is an option.

On a F350 SRW you can get a GVWR of 9,900 up to 11,500 lbs.

On a F350 DRW you can get a GVWR of up to 13,300 lbs

When loading a vehicle you need to take into account not just the weight of the slide in camper used in your example, but all of the rest of the stuff that goes inside it as well as the people and stuff being carried inside the cab, plus the fuel in the truck.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:02 PM
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If anyone is from Connecticut. A gvwr over 10k will make you exempt from emissions testing.
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I have a '12 350 6.2 on order. Order sheet says #11300 GVW.

What gives in the order/spec book on the difference in HP and torque between the #10,000 and other trucks?

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