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Ford trucks of this era assembled/sold new in Canada have KPH speedometers.

Instrument cluster lampholders aka bulb sockets. Why would the sockets be any different than a US instrument cluster socket?
 
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Ford trucks of this era assembled/sold new in Canada have KPH speedometers.

Instrument cluster lampholders aka bulb sockets. Why would the sockets be any different than a US instrument cluster socket?
Hi NumberDummy

The hunt is on for a Canadian KPH speedometer. Meanwhile I will try to make my own replacement scale as close to original looks as I can.

Regarding the lamp socket I have searched for your suggestion but all I can find are these new plastic once.

Behind my cluster the lampsockets looks exactly like the one called #560 on the following website. I am fond of original styled thing even where it doesnīt matter.

Bulbs

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Font style

Hi guy I have been modeling a 3D sheetmetal model of the scaling but changed the scaling to kph

But does anyone know the the Font style of the original cluster???

 
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Originally Posted by jimcar-9
Hi NumberDummy

The hunt is on for a Canadian KPH speedometer. Meanwhile I will try to make my own replacement scale as close to original looks as I can.

Regarding the lamp socket I have searched for your suggestion but all I can find are these new plastic once.

Behind my cluster the lampsockets looks exactly like the one called #560 on the following website. I am fond of original styled thing even where it doesnīt matter.

Bulbs

Thanks
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I assume you are working on a speedo for a 56 F-100. If you are good luck on finding a Canadian speedo that is in kph as we did not change to the metric system until the mid 70's, about the same time as Australia. I do not know what Ford did to their speedos prior to this if a vehicle was built for export to Europe or even if they ever did export to other countries that used the metric system. When we first changed to the metric system I remember seeing adds for a small gear box that changed mph to kph. It went between the cable output on the trans and the speedo cable so that 50 mph on the speedo was 50 kmp or 100 mph on the speedo was 100 kph. Pretty easy to run the needle off the end of the scale. I don't know if these are still available or not. I know this is not very helpful, just general info. Sorry
 
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1: I am in a need for some lampholders to the 56 instrument cluster. 3 of the lamp holders are beyond repair. I have been searching for som universal holders but havenīt had any luck yet.
Just to let you know, what you call 'holders' we call 'sockets' here in the states. So your 'lampholders' are commonly called 'bulb sockets' here in the states. Might have helped you out a little more in your www. searches. I see you did find some, and yes, they look like very nice units. Good score!

Hopefully you get your Speedo ironed out. Noticed that you're trying to re-create a face for your speedo, not a bad idea. The hard part is to get the speedo head to work with your scale in relation with the speed of the cable from the tranny. Some changes can be made swapping the gear on the tranny, but only so much. Good luck with your project!
 
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Originally Posted by jimcar-9
Hi guy I have been modeling a 3D sheetmetal model of the scaling but changed the scaling to kph

But does anyone know the the Font style of the original cluster???

Hi again,
I really think your on the right track with this one if you can find a way to duplicate the numbers onto a new face. I don't think it would be very hard to make a new face out of light aluminum if you have the old one to copy. What you have pictured looks great to me. The only problem is that the odometer will still be in miles. I could probably do a comparison chart if need be as I have a calculator that converts metric to imperial measurement and visa-verse if that would help.
Good luck, I hope you can work this out.
 
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Here's a 56 pickup speedo assembly, complete with wiring and lamp sockets on the back and everything, for sale on ebay.

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And just for your information, here's a discussion from some time ago with a similar topic.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...i-pick-up.html
 
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Thanks averyone for all the feedback itīs really nice reading.

Old ugly:

My goal was just to change the scaling on the cluster from todays 0-90 mph to 0-140 km/h "that the same speed limits" then I dont believe i haveto change any gears in the gearbox (gor the cable) however if I want the odometer to run km instead of miles then I haveto fin a way to switch the gears in the odometer or as ALBUQ F-1 suggest puting is a ratio adapter , but if I do that then I haveto keep the old scaleing 0-90 but then it will be in km/h så If I go faster than 90 km/h (56 mph) then I will go out of the scale.

So I believe the best way is to change the speedo scaling and the odometer gears.... when I find any.

Making a new scaling is quite easy as I have the right tools/connections trhu my work. The odo gears is a nother deal.

I am right now trying to find a Font that is right. The closest one so far is called " plakette serial light" but it not quite good enough.

plakette Ŧ MyFonts

I will show you some pictures of the finished set when I am done.

I was thinking maybe I should make lets say 5-10 sets as it wonīt cost much more then just 1.

If someone would be interested in a kph scaling afterwards.

I was even thinking on making the scaling a little custom for exampel write Slow down in small original font above 110km/ (instead of 70-90 mph) what do you think....??
 
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What do you all think about this.

Is it cool funny or just plain wierd.

 
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Jimmy, can i put my hand up for one when you get em sorted out. Lokks like your on the right track. John
 
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Jimmy, can i put my hand up for one when you get em sorted out. Lokks like your on the right track. John
No problems lexcoe:

I will let you know when I have it al sorted out. It might be a few bucks for shipping and manufacturing but nothing big.

Do you have any thaughts about the "slow down" part or any other custom wishes.

Here you have the latest version with the the closes font I have found so far.... #1 and #7 are not right but I will keep looking.
 
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Originally Posted by jimcar-9

Do you have any thaughts about the "slow down" part or any other custom wishes.
My thought would be not to add 'slow down'. Leave the numbers as they should be so it looks right.

Just a little history lesson here; Back in the 1970's, when the government mandated the 55 mph speed limit on all highways, they also forced the automakers to print the grading on speedometers in 5-15-25.. etc. numbers instead of speeds ending in 0, and had the 55 larger and with a box around it so it stood out better. We didn't like that much government intrusion in our lives. This is kind of a reminder of those days.
 
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Doesn't this seem like a whole lot less trouble, and corrects both the speedo and od in one fell swoop?! You'd be done in 15 minutes
 
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52 Merc:

Thanks for the history lesson:

It just might look better the way it was meant i agree. It was just the greative side that went nuts.

ALBUQ:

I agree that that would be the easiest way..... by far.

But I wouldnīt like the hard fact that the speedo ending at 90 kph (56 mpg).

And for some of us itīs the way to a goal that is the fun part not the goal itself. On the other hand I work as a mechanical design engineer so i think this part is by far the most satisfying and fun. Solve a problem your own way and on the way make it looking like nothing has ever been changed.

But I agree the gear set up would be almost to simple...... but as a precausion i will save the link you gave me.

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