New guy here and CONFUSED!
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New guy here and CONFUSED!
First off this is my first post but I have been reading here for awhile and I am highly impressed with the knowledge this forum possesses!!!!!!!!!
My Backstory leading up to my question-
My father passed away 4 years ago (in Virginia) and he had a 1966 F100 he loved and I would help him tinker on it when I would vacation there from Chicago. My 7 & 9 year old kids LOVE that truck and they called it Old Red. When my Dad passed my older brother laid claim to it for his son. I was happy (and sad) he got the truck because I didnt want to see it rust away. (He still didnt take the truck) As luck would have it this January I visited my Mom and she said my older brother just doesnt have the time for the truck and I immediately told her I would love if she would let me have it. I dont know why but I felt like this WAS THE ONLY thing I have to do. I want to restore this truck with my now 8 year old son so we can share the memories of working on a truck like the memories I have with my Father.
I do not have possession of the truck due to winter but this spring I am having it shipped from Virginia to Roselle (Chicago). The truck starts and the bed is rusted with some holes but all in all its in really good shape for its age mechanically.
OK-- Now the question after a novel! (FINALLY Right?)
I have decoded the VIN Its a 1966 Ford F100 VIN # F10YNA15429
F100 2wd
352CID V8
Assembled in Norfolk VA
(in) Sept of 1966
Data Plate-
0500 172 4000 251065
131 F100 D81 C 17
Wheel Base=131"
color - Rangoon Red
model F100 GVW 5,000
Rear axel- 3.25 Ford (3300-lb) Code 17
District - Richmond VA code 25
Custom cab bench
3 speed (in the tree) Ford light duty transmission (c)
Now I have looked everywhere and I know its a 1966 but the body looks like a 1967! The front turn signals under the headlights and the body etc. I have compared pictures from everywhere and I swear its a 1967 body! Can anyone shed some light on this for me please? Is it because it was manufactored in Sept of 1966 they put a 1967 body on it? Its hard because when I order parts do I get 4th generation catalogs or 1967 fifth generation parts?? UGH! any help would be greatly appreciated!
(I would show a picture of the truck but I cant figure out how to do that!) I uploaded them in my "Garage"
My Backstory leading up to my question-
My father passed away 4 years ago (in Virginia) and he had a 1966 F100 he loved and I would help him tinker on it when I would vacation there from Chicago. My 7 & 9 year old kids LOVE that truck and they called it Old Red. When my Dad passed my older brother laid claim to it for his son. I was happy (and sad) he got the truck because I didnt want to see it rust away. (He still didnt take the truck) As luck would have it this January I visited my Mom and she said my older brother just doesnt have the time for the truck and I immediately told her I would love if she would let me have it. I dont know why but I felt like this WAS THE ONLY thing I have to do. I want to restore this truck with my now 8 year old son so we can share the memories of working on a truck like the memories I have with my Father.
I do not have possession of the truck due to winter but this spring I am having it shipped from Virginia to Roselle (Chicago). The truck starts and the bed is rusted with some holes but all in all its in really good shape for its age mechanically.
OK-- Now the question after a novel! (FINALLY Right?)
I have decoded the VIN Its a 1966 Ford F100 VIN # F10YNA15429
F100 2wd
352CID V8
Assembled in Norfolk VA
(in) Sept of 1966
Data Plate-
0500 172 4000 251065
131 F100 D81 C 17
Wheel Base=131"
color - Rangoon Red
model F100 GVW 5,000
Rear axel- 3.25 Ford (3300-lb) Code 17
District - Richmond VA code 25
Custom cab bench
3 speed (in the tree) Ford light duty transmission (c)
Now I have looked everywhere and I know its a 1966 but the body looks like a 1967! The front turn signals under the headlights and the body etc. I have compared pictures from everywhere and I swear its a 1967 body! Can anyone shed some light on this for me please? Is it because it was manufactored in Sept of 1966 they put a 1967 body on it? Its hard because when I order parts do I get 4th generation catalogs or 1967 fifth generation parts?? UGH! any help would be greatly appreciated!
(I would show a picture of the truck but I cant figure out how to do that!) I uploaded them in my "Garage"
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That should be a 1967. It was probably incorrectly registered as a 66 when it was new. There are a lot of things on the 67 that are 67 only. I believe that in 66 the vin sequence number was all numerals whereas in 67 they started to use a letter as the first digit of the sequence. These mistakes occasionally happen. I recently scrapped a 71 that was titled as a 72.
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'must be a REALLY early production run to be in September. IIRC, Ford typically retooled in August for the new model year. I bet there's all sorts of funky (as in hybridized from other lines) parts on that rig. For example, there is no such thing as a 64-1/2 Mustang but early production cars are distinguished by prototype parts and carry overs directly from the Falcon. My 65 is a cross-over car...some "64-1/2" parts and configurations but classified among the purists by the build date that it is more 65 than a 64-1/2 version.
Just a caveat, some parts are 67 only so ya might wanna do research on what does not cross to 68s...
Congrats on your project. It should be an awesome experience reviving that rig and building memories. Remember, this is for fun! If ya get stuck, we're here to help.
Just a caveat, some parts are 67 only so ya might wanna do research on what does not cross to 68s...
Congrats on your project. It should be an awesome experience reviving that rig and building memories. Remember, this is for fun! If ya get stuck, we're here to help.
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My father passed away 4 years ago, he had a 1967 F100 he loved and I would help him tinker on it when I would vacation there from Chicago.
VIN # F10YNA15429 / Warranty Plate: W.B. 131 / COLOR: code omitted / MODEL: F100 / BODY: D81 / TRANS: C / AXLE: 17 / GVW: 05000 / Cert net HP: 172 / RPM: 4000 / DSO: 251065
VIN # F10YNA15429 / Warranty Plate: W.B. 131 / COLOR: code omitted / MODEL: F100 / BODY: D81 / TRANS: C / AXLE: 17 / GVW: 05000 / Cert net HP: 172 / RPM: 4000 / DSO: 251065
1967 was the first year the serial number (last 6 digits of the VIN) began with a letter. Previous years, it began with a number.
F10 = F100 2WD
Y = 352 2V
N = Norfolk VA Assembly Plant.
A15429 = 1967 .. Assembled September 1966 / 1967 serial number range: A00,000 - B99.999 / 1966 serial number range: 732,000 - 913,999.
Note: Serial numbers apply to all series' of trucks, Bronco's and Econolines, not just to F series.
131" Wheelbase
COLOR code omitted.
F100 2WD, 5,000 lbs. GVWR
D81: D = Medium Beige Petticrush Vinyl & Medium Beige Leeds Pattern Woven Plastic // 81 = 81B Custom Cab.
C = Ford type 3.03 3 Speed Medium Duty all Syncromesh Manual Transmission / If a 240/300 I-6 = Light Duty.
17 = Ford 9" Rear Axle / 3.25-1 / non Limited Slip / 3,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.
5,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
172 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
251065:
25 = Richmond VA Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
1065: Domestic Special Order number. The truck was ordered special by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."
Since new vehicles historically are introduced in September of the previous year, new vehicle production begins in August.
Some states registered vehicles in the first year they were sold new, not by their specific model year. A 1967 could have been registered as a 1966 if sold new prior to 1/1/1967.
Originally Posted by Labdog
color-Rangoon Red.
When a vehicle is painted a non standard color per the original purchasers request, the COLOR code is blank .. The vehicle is a Domestic Special Order.
btw: The hood ornament is not from any Ford vehicle. FoMoCo did not offer any hood ornaments for 1957/72 trucks. I believe it was an accessory hood ornament for 1949/52 Chevrolet passenger cars.
Remove it, flip it over...look on the inside. If I'm right, it will be marked GM and have 6 or 7 digit part number cast onto it.
A fellow I used to work with many moons ago had a 1950 Chevy Deluxe Club Coupe with every accessory GM offered, including this same hood ornament.
The wheel covers look like one of the types offered for 1970 Galaxie's.
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Sweet! That'll make a nice project for you and your boy. The only improvement I would consider over the stock setup is to change it from column shift to floor shift at some point in the restoration. The column shift setup in these old trucks always wears out and gets real sloppy/aggravating and it doesn't take much effor to install a floor shift.
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The only improvement I would consider over the stock setup is to change it from column shift to floor shift at some point in the restoration.
The column shift setup in these old trucks always wears out and gets real sloppy/aggravating and it doesn't take much effor to install a floor shift.
The column shift setup in these old trucks always wears out and gets real sloppy/aggravating and it doesn't take much effor to install a floor shift.
I owned a 1965 F100 w/3 speed O/D from 3/1965 - 11/2009. Twice during that time period I had to replace the shift lever bushings.
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Thank YOU!
You are all awesome!!! Thank you very much for the replies AND for sharing your knowledge!
NumberDummy- I assumed Rangoon Red because my father was the second owner of this truck and the color code is left blank. Looking at the choices the rangoon red was the only real red! Assumption on my part and yes I know what happens when i assume--
As far as the hub caps/hood ornament goes-- Thats just my Father! He likes something and he does it! Atleast he used too anyway. I am suprised he didnt put a mack truck dog on the hood or one of those hula girls! Gotta love a flea market!
I kinda like the shifter on the column. and yes you are right it is SLOPPY!!!
I will certainly be picking everyones brain almost to the point of exhaustion......
You are all awesome!!! Thank you very much for the replies AND for sharing your knowledge!
NumberDummy- I assumed Rangoon Red because my father was the second owner of this truck and the color code is left blank. Looking at the choices the rangoon red was the only real red! Assumption on my part and yes I know what happens when i assume--
As far as the hub caps/hood ornament goes-- Thats just my Father! He likes something and he does it! Atleast he used too anyway. I am suprised he didnt put a mack truck dog on the hood or one of those hula girls! Gotta love a flea market!
I kinda like the shifter on the column. and yes you are right it is SLOPPY!!!
I will certainly be picking everyones brain almost to the point of exhaustion......
Welcome to FTE
1967 was the first year the serial number (last 6 digits of the VIN) began with a letter. Previous years, it began with a number.
What makes you think so? You omitted the COLOR code...is there one stamped on the Warranty Plate? If not, the truck was not painted Rangoon Red!
When a vehicle is painted a non standard color per the original purchasers request, the COLOR code is blank .. The vehicle is a Domestic Special Order.
btw: The hood ornament is not from any Ford vehicle. FoMoCo did not offer any hood ornaments for 1957/72 trucks. I believe it was an accessory hood ornament for 1949/52 Chevrolet passenger cars.
Remove it, flip it over...look on the inside. If I'm right, it will be marked GM and have 6 or 7 digit part number cast onto it.
A fellow I used to work with many moons ago had a 1950 Chevy Deluxe Club Coupe with every accessory GM offered, including this same hood ornament.
The wheel covers look like one of the types offered for 1970 Galaxie's.
1967 was the first year the serial number (last 6 digits of the VIN) began with a letter. Previous years, it began with a number.
What makes you think so? You omitted the COLOR code...is there one stamped on the Warranty Plate? If not, the truck was not painted Rangoon Red!
When a vehicle is painted a non standard color per the original purchasers request, the COLOR code is blank .. The vehicle is a Domestic Special Order.
btw: The hood ornament is not from any Ford vehicle. FoMoCo did not offer any hood ornaments for 1957/72 trucks. I believe it was an accessory hood ornament for 1949/52 Chevrolet passenger cars.
Remove it, flip it over...look on the inside. If I'm right, it will be marked GM and have 6 or 7 digit part number cast onto it.
A fellow I used to work with many moons ago had a 1950 Chevy Deluxe Club Coupe with every accessory GM offered, including this same hood ornament.
The wheel covers look like one of the types offered for 1970 Galaxie's.
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Column shift is okay for what it is, but the weak spot is the pot metal column shift collar Ford used...which is odd because earlier designs were stronger and more durable. The collar wears inside and binds and the pin that holds the shift lever to the column wallows out and eventually breaks the collar...not to mention the hassle of changing the shift collar, and dealing with the funky turn signal switch design. If and when yours fails, do yourself a favor and install a floor shift...been there, done that at least 3 times since '76. Plus...it's easier to teach a lab or farm cat to shift for you with a floor shift.
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Congrats on your truck, I have a 67 also & was wondering if you could look at the interior of yours & answer a question for me? inside the cab under the rear window I have 6 perfectly spaced & drilled holes with a shadow of faded paint that looks like it might have been a piece of trim almost the full width of the cab, is there a trim piece there, I,ve looked in some catalogs but can't find anything for certain, thanks for any help,
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Column shift is okay for what it is, but the weak spot is the pot metal column shift collar Ford used...which is odd because earlier designs were stronger and more durable.
Considering the applications, and the fact that there was no shift collar used prior to 1961 on any truck, what earlier designs are you speaking of?
The collar wears inside and binds and the pin that holds the shift lever to the column wallows out and eventually breaks the collar...not to mention the hassle of changing the shift collar, and dealing with the funky turn signal switch design. If and when yours fails, do yourself a favor and install a floor shift...been there, done that at least 3 times since '76.
Considering the applications, and the fact that there was no shift collar used prior to 1961 on any truck, what earlier designs are you speaking of?
The collar wears inside and binds and the pin that holds the shift lever to the column wallows out and eventually breaks the collar...not to mention the hassle of changing the shift collar, and dealing with the funky turn signal switch design. If and when yours fails, do yourself a favor and install a floor shift...been there, done that at least 3 times since '76.
D5TZ-7228-B (replaced CODZ-7228-B) . M/T Shift Collar / Obsolete
Applications: 1961/77 F100/250 // 1960/65 Falcon/Comet / 1962/65 Fairlane / 1966/77 Bronco.
196 available NOS from Ford Dealers/obsolete parts vendors.