1960 long bed 4X4 WIW???
#31
02-11-2012, 08:01 PM
I understand what you are saying above and am already well aware of it.
A little background on me. I have been involved in the collector car hobby for 40+ years. I have personally owned over 150 vintage, antique, muscle and sports cars during that time. I have restored cars, bought survivors, driven my cars and of course sold many of them.
It is not my truck, just one I listed for a friend. I have no dog in this hunt other than to find some opinions on the truck with regard to what it worth in the as presented condition.
It seems everyone here is reluctant to put a value on it. People here said with pictures and the data plate info they could then give an opinion. This has been done but still no comments. Are there potential buyrs here that plan to bid on it on Ebay that don't want to show their hand?
A little background on me. I have been involved in the collector car hobby for 40+ years. I have personally owned over 150 vintage, antique, muscle and sports cars during that time. I have restored cars, bought survivors, driven my cars and of course sold many of them.
It is not my truck, just one I listed for a friend. I have no dog in this hunt other than to find some opinions on the truck with regard to what it worth in the as presented condition.
It seems everyone here is reluctant to put a value on it. People here said with pictures and the data plate info they could then give an opinion. This has been done but still no comments. Are there potential buyrs here that plan to bid on it on Ebay that don't want to show their hand?
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02-11-2012, 10:38 PM
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#34
02-12-2012, 01:29 AM
I don't really know what 4-wheel drive vehicles go for,so I can't guess values.I can say that I wouldn't pay anything for it.Way too much work!
No air cleaner,so "prolly" moisture/rodent issues.Rotted cab corners.Not so great looking radiator,I see cooling system repairs like radiator,hoses water pump,t-stat.
A carburetor.Flush the gas tank.
Hacked up and rotting engine compartment wiring harness.Butchered dash,with after marked gauges,and other crap hanging below the dash.So figure more wiring issues here.
Count on leaky wheel cylinders,maybe the brake master cylinder as well.Can you say clutch master-cylinder and slave cylinder?
I thought I even saw rubber bands, or maybe it was twisty-ties, securing part of the wiring harness under the bed!Wiring hanging below the place where a rear bumper should be.
The interior also needs: the seat rebuilt and reupholstered, new carpet, rust treatment for the floor boards, door access panels, and you've just got to get rid of that "cheap-*** Grant steering wheel"(to quote Mr4speedford).
Exterior:Tailgate(not so easy to find) and chains, front and rear bumpers, taillight housings and lenses, definitely different wheels. And for sure,way more than 2K worth of paint and bodywork.I guess the Canadian dollar goes a lot further than ours does.
What's it worth?If you were to pay me a couple hundred dollars,I'd hook it up to my truck and tow it to the junk-yard.
NumberDummy is right on the money on this one.If you know how it's been cared for in the past(not very well), you can pretty much guess what kind of money you'll spend to bring it back.I would have no desire to torture myself in that fashion.
No air cleaner,so "prolly" moisture/rodent issues.Rotted cab corners.Not so great looking radiator,I see cooling system repairs like radiator,hoses water pump,t-stat.
A carburetor.Flush the gas tank.
Hacked up and rotting engine compartment wiring harness.Butchered dash,with after marked gauges,and other crap hanging below the dash.So figure more wiring issues here.
Count on leaky wheel cylinders,maybe the brake master cylinder as well.Can you say clutch master-cylinder and slave cylinder?
I thought I even saw rubber bands, or maybe it was twisty-ties, securing part of the wiring harness under the bed!Wiring hanging below the place where a rear bumper should be.
The interior also needs: the seat rebuilt and reupholstered, new carpet, rust treatment for the floor boards, door access panels, and you've just got to get rid of that "cheap-*** Grant steering wheel"(to quote Mr4speedford).
Exterior:Tailgate(not so easy to find) and chains, front and rear bumpers, taillight housings and lenses, definitely different wheels. And for sure,way more than 2K worth of paint and bodywork.I guess the Canadian dollar goes a lot further than ours does.
What's it worth?If you were to pay me a couple hundred dollars,I'd hook it up to my truck and tow it to the junk-yard.
NumberDummy is right on the money on this one.If you know how it's been cared for in the past(not very well), you can pretty much guess what kind of money you'll spend to bring it back.I would have no desire to torture myself in that fashion.
Looks to me like a fairly solid start for an aficiondo of this style truck. I like them, one of my fav models actually, almost bought one back in the mid '80s, it got away, a friend bought it. Your sig says you have a '59, whats it worth? Like previously said, its worth what someone will pay for it.
This truck surely doesnt need to go to the scrapper, its far and away in too good of shape for that. It even runs according to the seller. I mean, how often do you see trucks of this vintage, pre-restored, in better shape than this one is in? I'm betting not very often. If this one gets towed to the scrap yard by your '59, leave them both then, for that matter, scrapim all older than 10 years old if youre going to scrap this one. What do you expect an unrestored '60 to look like?? I saw one (4x4)2-3 mos ago in Hattiesburg MS in much worse shape, pretty much all there but in real rough condition. They are pretty rare apparently in 4x4 and the right guy comes along, it will sell. "Theres an *** for every seat" lol. That said, I agree with the $1500-2500 range, at least to me.
#35
02-12-2012, 06:23 AM
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I've typed over 38,900 posts here on FTE since 11/04/2006, this is the first time someone (IMO, a nit picker) has complained about my spelling of probably as prolly. 
Just be prepared for someone to mistake you for a NumberDummy at some point.
#36
02-12-2012, 08:16 AM
Looks to me like a fairly solid start for an aficiondo of this style truck. I like them, one of my fav models actually, almost bought one back in the mid '80s, it got away, a friend bought it. Your sig says you have a '59, whats it worth? Like previously said, its worth what someone will pay for it.
This truck surely doesnt need to go to the scrapper, its far and away in too good of shape for that. It even runs according to the seller. I mean, how often do you see trucks of this vintage, pre-restored, in better shape than this one is in? I'm betting not very often. If this one gets towed to the scrap yard by your '59, leave them both then, for that matter, scrapim all older than 10 years old if youre going to scrap this one. What do you expect an unrestored '60 to look like?? I saw one (4x4)2-3 mos ago in Hattiesburg MS in much worse shape, pretty much all there but in real rough condition. They are pretty rare apparently in 4x4 and the right guy comes along, it will sell. "Theres an *** for every seat" lol. That said, I agree with the $1500-2500 range, at least to me.
This truck surely doesnt need to go to the scrapper, its far and away in too good of shape for that. It even runs according to the seller. I mean, how often do you see trucks of this vintage, pre-restored, in better shape than this one is in? I'm betting not very often. If this one gets towed to the scrap yard by your '59, leave them both then, for that matter, scrapim all older than 10 years old if youre going to scrap this one. What do you expect an unrestored '60 to look like?? I saw one (4x4)2-3 mos ago in Hattiesburg MS in much worse shape, pretty much all there but in real rough condition. They are pretty rare apparently in 4x4 and the right guy comes along, it will sell. "Theres an *** for every seat" lol. That said, I agree with the $1500-2500 range, at least to me.
Maybe only one in 20 persons would complete a project in that state,regardless of intentions.I'm not into ten-year projects that never happen.I do like my vehicles to be in a certain condition - not pristine trailer queens, just really nice drivers.I could not bear to drive that thing.
Out here, there are much better starting points available,though 4WD is not common.
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02-12-2012, 09:22 AM
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To me the real question is not "CAN it be done?" but rather "WILL it be done?"
Maybe only one in 20 persons would complete a project in that state,regardless of intentions.I'm not into ten-year projects that never happen.I do like my vehicles to be in a certain condition - not pristine trailer queens, just really nice drivers.I could not bear to drive that thing.
Out here, there are much better starting points available,though 4WD is not common.
Maybe only one in 20 persons would complete a project in that state,regardless of intentions.I'm not into ten-year projects that never happen.I do like my vehicles to be in a certain condition - not pristine trailer queens, just really nice drivers.I could not bear to drive that thing.
Out here, there are much better starting points available,though 4WD is not common.
I totally agree.
Sure there are a few guys out there that want to do a frame -off, pristine, show pony, trailer queen resto but the vast majority of people that buy a truck like this buy it to USE. Most buyers for something like this (in my area anyway) want to take it to the sand dunes or hunting. Many are not too concerned if it gets a little brush "pinstripping" so there is no reason to get carried away with some nut and bolt resto. Clean it up, repair what is necessary, paint it and use it. Just like you would with say a 10 year old car.
#38
02-12-2012, 02:02 PM
You aren't much of a contributer, considering you've only typed 400 or so posts since January 2005.
Maybe you can add to your measly post count by finding other FTE members typing prolly, then you can nit pick them.
#40
02-12-2012, 04:46 PM
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Prolly is internet speak .. 1000's of FTE members use it every day.
You aren't much of a contributer, considering you've only typed 400 or so posts since January 2005.
Maybe you can add to your measly post count by finding other FTE members typing prolly, then you can nit pick them.
You aren't much of a contributer, considering you've only typed 400 or so posts since January 2005.
Maybe you can add to your measly post count by finding other FTE members typing prolly, then you can nit pick them.
Darryl, good luck with the sale
I will be watching the auction, wishing it was close enough for me to consider!Scott
#41
02-13-2012, 04:50 AM
To me the real question is not "CAN it be done?" but rather "WILL it be done?"
Maybe only one in 20 persons would complete a project in that state,regardless of intentions.I'm not into ten-year projects that never happen.I do like my vehicles to be in a certain condition - not pristine trailer queens, just really nice drivers.I could not bear to drive that thing.
Out here, there are much better starting points available,though 4WD is not common.
Maybe only one in 20 persons would complete a project in that state,regardless of intentions.I'm not into ten-year projects that never happen.I do like my vehicles to be in a certain condition - not pristine trailer queens, just really nice drivers.I could not bear to drive that thing.
Out here, there are much better starting points available,though 4WD is not common.
#42
02-13-2012, 04:58 AM
EXACTLY.
I totally agree.
Sure there are a few guys out there that want to do a frame -off, pristine, show pony, trailer queen resto but the vast majority of people that buy a truck like this buy it to USE. Most buyers for something like this (in my area anyway) want to take it to the sand dunes or hunting. Many are not too concerned if it gets a little brush "pinstripping" so there is no reason to get carried away with some nut and bolt resto. Clean it up, repair what is necessary, paint it and use it. Just like you would with say a 10 year old car.
I totally agree.
Sure there are a few guys out there that want to do a frame -off, pristine, show pony, trailer queen resto but the vast majority of people that buy a truck like this buy it to USE. Most buyers for something like this (in my area anyway) want to take it to the sand dunes or hunting. Many are not too concerned if it gets a little brush "pinstripping" so there is no reason to get carried away with some nut and bolt resto. Clean it up, repair what is necessary, paint it and use it. Just like you would with say a 10 year old car.
#43
02-13-2012, 07:23 AM
Bama, in the dry west/southwest, many of the older trucks remain with minimal rust, and are still used daily.
One of the ongoing puzzlements here on FTE among some of us "westerners", has us often shaking our heads at the stuff people back east are willing to pay premium prices for.Often, its "that" , or nothing, they reason.Not really.
)
We feel the smarter choice is to buy a western truck (probably still running) ,with a great body,and have it shipped back east.A little more money up front (note:Maybe,I've seen the crazy prices the desperate back-east guys sometimes pay for rust-buckets) when you figure a shipper, but miles ahead in money for repairs and especially body/paint.
FTE members are usually willing to go check out a close-by vehicle, take better photos, talk with the owner.
That truck would eat me alive financially,not to mention the fact that it would have been some years before I could get it on the road.I , with no fab-shop or fab/paint skills, would be paying someone else to do that.Also, 4WD's are fairly expensive to repair and maintain,regardless.Those are motivation-killers for many wannabe old-truck owners.
It might be a good fit for certain persons,though most would be better-served buying a stronger starting point.
Steve
One of the ongoing puzzlements here on FTE among some of us "westerners", has us often shaking our heads at the stuff people back east are willing to pay premium prices for.Often, its "that" , or nothing, they reason.Not really.
)
We feel the smarter choice is to buy a western truck (probably still running) ,with a great body,and have it shipped back east.A little more money up front (note:Maybe,I've seen the crazy prices the desperate back-east guys sometimes pay for rust-buckets) when you figure a shipper, but miles ahead in money for repairs and especially body/paint.
FTE members are usually willing to go check out a close-by vehicle, take better photos, talk with the owner.
That truck would eat me alive financially,not to mention the fact that it would have been some years before I could get it on the road.I , with no fab-shop or fab/paint skills, would be paying someone else to do that.Also, 4WD's are fairly expensive to repair and maintain,regardless.Those are motivation-killers for many wannabe old-truck owners.
It might be a good fit for certain persons,though most would be better-served buying a stronger starting point.
Steve
#44
02-13-2012, 01:36 PM
Tuned
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02-13-2012, 04:22 PM
