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So,with the aftermarket cap is it starving the hpop for oil because its draining back to the pan to fast?.you got any miles driven on it yet scameron?.hope it works out for ya, nice going blades35!
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I can see your problem is the WRONG OIL FILTER CAP

if you have an OEM Filter in that AM cap setup that can definatly cause your problems

Get a New OEM Oil Filter Cap & OEM Filter

I wouldnt worrey about that ICP sensor

Thats where I would start
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So,with the aftermarket cap is it starving the hpop for oil because its draining back to the pan to fast?.you got any miles driven on it yet scameron?.hope it works out for ya, nice going blades35!
not yet. will do tomorrow and see. since my wife purchased a new car, the truck doesn't get driven much.
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I did mine in a parking lot and it took a buddy and I a full day. It was the first time I turned a wrench on the truck....my buddy did his EGR delete earlier in the year, so he was a big help.
shouldn't be to bad then. i wrenched on my truck for the first time 6 months after i bought it. the EGR cooler went out. i took one of the members idea on here and made my own EGR delete. in the end i had about $175 in my delete that included antifreeze. purchased a tuner and custom tunes shortly after.
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If the truck doesn't get driven much, consider a battery maintainer or solar panel.

My Excursion only gets driven about weekly. Given that lead acid batteries lose up to 15% of their charge after sitting for just a week, I opted to pop a 3 watt solar panel on my dash to keep the batteries topped off at all times.

This will not only make for happier FICM's, but will also make the batteries last way longer and avoid the inconvenience of having a dead set of batteries just anyway.

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bad news, the problem isn't fixed. strange, i started it this morning, let it warm up for about 7 mins, drove about 5 miles to get a coffee, let it idle in the parking lot, drove back home and even got on it a little. ran pretty smooth and has better throttle response. about 4 hours later i headed back out, made it down the road about 5 miles before it started the same issues. pulled the same codes, P0262, P0277, P0280 and a new one P0284. going to check my voltage on the FICM tomorrow while it is acting up.
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Sh** I Knew It when I saw this thread pop back up

I had a Feeling it would be short lived since you had the Injector circut High codes

I just didnt want to say anything and Jinx it ya Know

Is the FICM ground wire on the back intake manafold bolt?? and not crorroded or anything like that
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So,with the aftermarket cap is it starving the hpop for oil because its draining back to the pan to fast?
The LPOP should be able to overcome the open drain valve in the bottom of the oil filter housing. But since it's not closing all the way...what else is getting by the filter element? If the LPOP wasn't supplying enough oil to the HPOP the truck wouldn't start...let alone keep running. One of the few things Navistar got right (if you ask me).
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bad news, the problem isn't fixed. strange, i started it this morning, let it warm up for about 7 mins, drove about 5 miles to get a coffee, let it idle in the parking lot, drove back home and even got on it a little. ran pretty smooth and has better throttle response. about 4 hours later i headed back out, made it down the road about 5 miles before it started the same issues. pulled the same codes, P0262, P0277, P0280 and a new one P0284. going to check my voltage on the FICM tomorrow while it is acting up.
Don't tell Benny (Blade35) but I swiped the top four from one of his recent posts

P0262 Cylinder 1 Injector Circuit High
P0277 Cylinder 6 Injector Circuit High
P0280 Cylinder 7 Injector Circuit High
P0283 Cylinder 8 Injector Circuit High


P0284 Cylinder 8 Contribution/Balance Fault

I'm thinking 1, 6 and 7 are on the same FICM harness...the contribution/balance fault is something I'd be interested to know if the truck is throwing because of FICM issues. I'd clear the codes and take another spin to see if it throws another contribution code. Might also double check to make sure the plugs are in all the way on the back/bottom of the FICM. Also check to make sure a pin isn't bent just to keep it simple before moving to the expensive stuff.
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Shorted coils (side shorts) or short to grounds produce high current which sets the injector circuit high codes (ie.
P0262, P0265, ..., P0283).

P0262 Cylinder 1 Injector Circuit High
P0265 Cylinder 2 Injector Circuit High
P0268 Cylinder 3 Injector Circuit High
P0271 Cylinder 4 Injector Circuit High
P0274 Cylinder 5 Injector Circuit High
P0277 Cylinder 6 Injector Circuit High
P0280 Cylinder 7 Injector Circuit High
P0283 Cylinder 8 Injector Circuit High
FICM has detected a short in an injector
circuit to ground. Injector circuit short to
ground, defective coil



And make shure the FICM Plug closest to the firewall is fulley plugged in
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alright, i checked everything i could. the plug is fully plugged in and volts while acting up are 48.5.

FICMrepair: is there a chance of something going bad in the FICM that wouldn't affect the output volt reading?

Benny: there is a ground wire towards the back of the FICM that comes out of the wire harness and is grounded to the heat shield.

what's the chance the pigtails on those injectors are shorting out under the valve cover? i can't image all 3 started to short out at the same time. maybe all 3 injectors are dieing? i have a lot of injector noise/rattling when it is running right. what is the initial noise you hear when you turn the key on? a pump noise that sounds like it is right on top of the motor. i can't remember.
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FICM's can indeed go bad while the voltage stays within specs, yes. Do you have a spare one you can swap in there quick?

The pump noise you hear on the passenger side is the vacuum pump.

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OK, figured It was time for me to chime in since most have read my problems which started out with the wrong oil cap! SOOO, heres what I had todo after running the wrong cap after 60k miles of running on the wrong cap!!! replaced ICP, IPR, all 8 dummy plugs, all 8 injectors, and cleaned everything imbetween!!! took it out for the first time today after repairs, and runnng back to beastly, BUT my point is having the wrong oil cap is BAD M'KKK lol.. hate to say but the entire motor runs off of oil pressure so when the cap is worng and lets dirty oil by, you could be surpised by what can be wrong! and DAMAGE the wallet. lol but I still <3 my FORD! not trying to scare anyone with the good ol' dollar but maybe we need to be more aware? but who to blame the guy before us or us?? IMO it was always the one before !! but hey thats my 2cents.

OHHH and I did it to so im not saying that im any better, just depressed such a small thing can be such a BIG pain in the A!!
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FICM's can indeed go bad while the voltage stays within specs, yes. Do you have a spare one you can swap in there quick?

The pump noise you hear on the passenger side is the vacuum pump.

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no i don't have a spare. probably no way to test it? when i had it rebuilt i paid for the lifetime warranty on it. so maybe i send it back?
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OK, figured It was time for me to chime in since most have read my problems which started out with the wrong oil cap! SOOO, heres what I had todo after running the wrong cap after 60k miles of running on the wrong cap!!! replaced ICP, IPR, all 8 dummy plugs, all 8 injectors, and cleaned everything imbetween!!! took it out for the first time today after repairs, and runnng back to beastly, BUT my point is having the wrong oil cap is BAD M'KKK lol.. hate to say but the entire motor runs off of oil pressure so when the cap is worng and lets dirty oil by, you could be surpised by what can be wrong! and DAMAGE the wallet. lol but I still <3 my FORD! not trying to scare anyone with the good ol' dollar but maybe we need to be more aware? but who to blame the guy before us or us?? IMO it was always the one before !! but hey thats my 2cents.

OHHH and I did it to so im not saying that im any better, just depressed such a small thing can be such a BIG pain in the A!!
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ouch. well i know for a fact i didn't swamp out my oil filter caps.
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no i don't have a spare. probably no way to test it?
Other than the voltage at the screws (4 screw since you drive an '05)...but that's not a 100% cut & dry if the FICM has trouble. But it will help guide you toward a weak one. As far as a spare FICM, have you checked to see if there is someone near you via your FTE state chapter?

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when i had it rebuilt i paid for the lifetime warranty on it. so maybe i send it back?
Who did the rebuild work? And did you check the pins in the (X1, X2, X3) plugs?
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