Cutting the bed, short bed conversion.
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#17
We shorten about 4 trucks a year and usually lengthen around 2. In the sanitation industry we are always buying used trucks and retro-fitting them to our specs.
FWIW as a CWI and fabrication supervisor for my company, a simple "butt-splice" would never fly around here. None of the frame companies I know would ever do something like that.
Josh
Josh
#18
We did one truck frame at work like that. Makes for a fairly strong joint though. I would choose a "Z" over that personally, but I wouldn't shy away from doing that style again.
We shorten about 4 trucks a year and usually lengthen around 2. In the sanitation industry we are always buying used trucks and retro-fitting them to our specs.
FWIW as a CWI and fabrication supervisor for my company, a simple "butt-splice" would never fly around here. None of the frame companies I know would ever do something like that.
Josh
Josh
We shorten about 4 trucks a year and usually lengthen around 2. In the sanitation industry we are always buying used trucks and retro-fitting them to our specs.
FWIW as a CWI and fabrication supervisor for my company, a simple "butt-splice" would never fly around here. None of the frame companies I know would ever do something like that.
Josh
Josh
I think your way and reds way are both good. He has a c channel inside a c channel, so its stronger than what you describe using a flat plate over part of the weld. I think the cut dont matter if you double frame that section like red, if you just use a flat fish plate then the z should be stronger.
Glad to have two very experienced guys on here to learn from, your both an asset to this site.
#19
79fordpilot is exactly right. It wouldn't be a big deal to graft the inside ''bulge'' and the pocket holes in there, I just welded the rest of them up for a clean look. Around min. 3:50 in this video of my other truck you will see step by step of shortening a long bedside, including moving a stake pocket hole.
1978 Ford F150 Ranger Lariat 4x4 - YouTube
1978 Ford F150 Ranger Lariat 4x4 - YouTube
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#21
frame splicing
I have a 79 F350 Crew, the truck was a ramp truck early in its life up until i got it a few years ago. The frame was stretched, the frame was cut right behind the cab. It was a straight cut, butt welded together with only a 4"x6" reinforcing plate welded inside the frame. The frame was still as i guess it was done ever how many years ago, no cracks or any signs of being a problem. So if that worked for all those years, in a commercial capacity with probably a 2000 lb bed on the truck and hauling 3500 lb cars why wouldn't it be ok on a short wheel base truck?
Also i worked for a fertilizer spreader manufacture, We always mounted spreader bodies on trucks, the body would weigh 3500 lbs and would hold 5 tons of fertilizer or lime. Most of the time these truck frames had to be shortened or lengthened when they came to us to work with the body. I never saw any of the frames cut like a Z or angle cut, they were always straight cut, butt welded together and a diamond plate or rectangle plate welded inside the frame. I saw some older trucks that were stretched or shortened by farmers, some of those looked pretty scary, but i never saw one breaking. these truck frames were about a 1/4" to 3/8" thick, but keep in mind these were not only on the road hauling 5 tons but these trucks were bouncing across rough fields at 10-15 MPH while spreading. in my 20 years or so being in that business we never had anyone have any problems with a broken truck frame.
I stretched the frame on my other crew cab, and i did notch the frame, and welded a 1/4" 6"x14" long plate over the splice. I believe its stronger than it was from the factory.
Also i worked for a fertilizer spreader manufacture, We always mounted spreader bodies on trucks, the body would weigh 3500 lbs and would hold 5 tons of fertilizer or lime. Most of the time these truck frames had to be shortened or lengthened when they came to us to work with the body. I never saw any of the frames cut like a Z or angle cut, they were always straight cut, butt welded together and a diamond plate or rectangle plate welded inside the frame. I saw some older trucks that were stretched or shortened by farmers, some of those looked pretty scary, but i never saw one breaking. these truck frames were about a 1/4" to 3/8" thick, but keep in mind these were not only on the road hauling 5 tons but these trucks were bouncing across rough fields at 10-15 MPH while spreading. in my 20 years or so being in that business we never had anyone have any problems with a broken truck frame.
I stretched the frame on my other crew cab, and i did notch the frame, and welded a 1/4" 6"x14" long plate over the splice. I believe its stronger than it was from the factory.
#22
1978 f250 lwb to swb
78 f250, cutting frame to be a swb. My issue is the tapper in the frame will put me off 2 inches width wise. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[QUOTE=Bullitt390;11354201]I just realized I failed to mention he (RED) did a fantastic job shortening the bed. But the frame...
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I have a 78 f250, trying to cut the frame down 16" to become a swb. My issue is if I cut the frame where you guys did the width of the frame will not match up when I slide the two together. The frames width tappers out. A distance of 16 inches will put me almost 2" off width wise when I cut the 16 inch section out. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. I will try and include a picture but I honestly don't know how to use this sight very well.
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... this video of my other truck you will see step by step of shortening a long bedside, including moving a stake pocket hole.
1978 Ford F150 Ranger Lariat 4x4 - YouTube
1978 Ford F150 Ranger Lariat 4x4 - YouTube
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