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Having issues with truck not starting. I have the following codes thrown :P0261, 0264, 0267, 0270, 0273, 0276, 0279, 0282, 2617. Now I know these are the injectors low voltage codes and the crankshaft code. I tested the voltage for the FICM and I got 0 volts. I read on here that with a 0 volt reading that it could be a FICM fuse. If that is correct, where would I find the fuses I need to check and which ones do I need to check? I wanted to start with the least expensive option and troubleshoot up to eventually buying a new FICM. I recently had the EGR go out and had that replaced and a bad alternator, so I had that rebuilt. I fully charged the batteries before testing the FICM as instructed on here. Don't know what to do next. Any help that can be given will be appreciated. I have a 2006 F-250 6.0L with 93,000 miles.
 
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The owners manual lists the fuses. But in my '06, they call the FICM an IDM, which I think is a throwback to the 7.3. Funny that they never corrected the name in the manual.

The fuses for the IDM are in the fuse box under the hood. Look at #5, 15, 18, and relay #304.

If those check good, then a bad FICM would be a good bet.
 
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If it does come down to being the FICM, then there is absolutely no reason to buy a new one from Ford. They are all remanufactured. The best value is to send it to Ed at FICMrepair.com. He will upgrade some of the key components and get you going again.
 
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Originally Posted by bpounds
The owners manual lists the fuses. But in my '06, they call the FICM an IDM, which I think is a throwback to the 7.3. Funny that they never corrected the name in the manual.

The fuses for the IDM are in the fuse box under the hood. Look at #5, 15, 18, and relay #304.

If those check good, then a bad FICM would be a good bet.
Thanks, that was what was throwing me off. Looked in the manual and did not see FICM fuse. I will check those and let you know what I come up with.
 
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Ok, so I checked the Idm fuses and they all are working. Pulled out the FICM and took it apart. The solder looks good with no cracks so I pretty sure the module is just fried since I'm getting a 0 voltage when testing it. So it looks like a new FICM is what is going to have to happen now. ED, what is the price to have you rebuild it? I can get FICM power supply for cost (I have a hook up) at the FORD dealership. If it still cheaper to go with you then I may just have to do that. ALso what is the turn around for you to fix it?
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
If it does come down to being the FICM, then there is absolutely no reason to buy a new one from Ford. They are all remanufactured. The best value is to send it to Ed at FICMrepair.com. He will upgrade some of the key components and get you going again.

i agree with mark!! i bought one from ford and im still mad at myself over it. they charge almost $1100 in the end and the module is no better than the one that failed. if ed repairs yours, it is usually less than $300 and ive never heard of any bad about ed. he does great work. then, when u get that back, you can have it tuned. im not sure about how long it takes to get back, but i know that ed always gets back to people and if u talk to him about it, im sure he would have it back in much less than a week.
 
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Get on his website for all the info you need - FICMrepair.com
 
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Ok, I went ahead and bought a rebuilt FICM because I would have lost out on about $2,500 in overtime sending it off to Ed and waiting for it to come back. I installed the FICM and cranked it up. It ran but rough, so I turned it off and put the OBD-II on it and it threw the codes for all the injectors voltage circuit high this time, instead of low and code P-0677 . The batteries were low again so I went and bought brand new Motorcraft batteries and put them in. I cleared the codes and tried to start it again. It rolls over but will not start. It only threw the code P-0677 and not the injectors circuit voltage high this time. I thought that I could have a high pressure oil leak. I just replaced the HPO hose about a month ago. I'm still not ruling that out though. I will be hooking a mastertech to it tomorrow to see if the oil is at least 500 psi but other than that, I'm at a loss? Am I troubleshooting it correctly? What should I try next?
 
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P0677 is #7 glowplug. I suppose you should test all the glowplugs to see if it is really bad. Could be the glowplug module and that more than one of them is cold. Is it pretty cold where you are? It seems to me like glowplugs are rarely the reason that a 6.0 won't start at all. But then I don't live in a severe climate, so I just might be wrong about that.

If the GPs check out, then you can check the no-start thread in the tech folder, or else it is time to turn it over to the pros.
 
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P0677 is #7 glowplug. I suppose you should test all the glowplugs to see if it is really bad. Could be the glowplug module and that more than one of them is cold. Is it pretty cold where you are? It seems to me like glowplugs are rarely the reason that a 6.0 won't start at all. But then I don't live in a severe climate, so I just might be wrong about that.

If the GPs check out, then you can check the no-start thread in the tech folder, or else it is time to turn it over to the pros.
I'm in Texas, just outside of Houston, so not too cold here!
 
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Ok, I went ahead and bought a rebuilt FICM because I would have lost out on about $2,500 in overtime sending it off to Ed and waiting for it to come back. I installed the FICM and cranked it up. It ran but rough, so I turned it off and put the OBD-II on it and it threw the codes for all the injectors voltage circuit high this time, instead of low and code P-0677 . The batteries were low again so I went and bought brand new Motorcraft batteries and put them in. I cleared the codes and tried to start it again. It rolls over but will not start. It only threw the code P-0677 and not the injectors circuit voltage high this time. I thought that I could have a high pressure oil leak. I just replaced the HPO hose about a month ago. I'm still not ruling that out though. I will be hooking a mastertech to it tomorrow to see if the oil is at least 500 psi but other than that, I'm at a loss? Am I troubleshooting it correctly? What should I try next?
Where did you buy the rebuilt FICM?
 
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Where did you buy the rebuilt FICM?
I bought it from a Ford dealership here in Houston. I got a hook up there and got it for cost.
 
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For anyone else reading this thread down the road:

Riffraff Diesel: Alliant FICM Fuel Injector Control Module

That is over $300 less expensive than what mine cost me from the dealership (not including the labor to install it).

I have no experience with RiffRaff at all but plan on buying filters and such from them for my next oil/fuel filter change.
 
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I'm going to be doing a full diagnostic test on my truck today, can anyone tell me any specific information that I should record for the no start issue? Or at least point into the right direction in the Tech folder. I will be checking the oil pressure for one but was wondering what else I should look for.
 
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What equipment do you have for diagnostics? You're going to need some electronic gadgets.
 


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