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Old 01-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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1959 ford f100 4x4 with a 5.0 engine work?

Hi im brand new to this site so bare with me lol. i just bought a 1959 ford f100 4x4 and someone has put a 289 in it but motor is blown. And i have a 5.0L HO 1987 mustang engine with the wireing harness and comuter. I was wondering if that would bolt up to the same tranny that the 289 is hooked to and motor mounts?? and any other problems i would run in to if i put the 5.0 in it?

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Find out what bolt pattern the 289 is. If it is a pre-'65, the bell is 5 bolts and won't bolt up to the 302 (5.0).

If it is a 6 bolt bell, the engine will bolt up, but you need to make sure you use the flywheel from the '87, and get the correct pilot bushing/bearing. Your clutch disc needs to match the input splines also.

Engine mounts should be the same.
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Thank you very much. How bout a 351w fuel injected, would it fit? I really want something that if fuel injected im sick of messing with carbs and want it to be a good driver. any other moters you would suggest? would the 5.0 have plenty of power? and one more question how hard is it going to be to hook the computer and wireing harness up?

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The 351w will bolt to the 6 bolt bell, same as the later 289s, 302s, and 240/300 six.

Exhaust will be a little higher and farther apart, so that may be an issue. How much room do you have side to side with the 289? If it's tight anywhere, the 351w might not fit.

As for a 302 having enough power, did the 289 work? If it did, the 302 will work better. A Mustang 302 is going to be tuned for higher revs, but you can probably live with that.

You need to find out what bell is in there before you go further.

As for hooking up the computer--as much as I like EFI and think it's better, in this application I would go carb. Much easier imo, and you don't have to rewire the whole vehicle.
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It Looks like i would have plenty of room. I went and looked at the bell it is a 6 bolt. So i would have to rewire the whole vehicle if i did EFI? I was really wanting an engine that was fuel injected but if it is going to be a real pain i wouldnt want to do that. Thanks for your replies
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Well, not the tail lights probably...

You have the '87 motor and harness, right? Take a look at it--is it something you can just supply 12 volts to? I don't think so..... But maybe it is, depends on how much of the wiring you have I suppose.

Is the '87 motor sound? Or is it, like most '87s by now, worn out and in need of a rebuild?
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the harness is at my shop il have to look. they said it has 78000 miles on it and runs great but who knows.
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I have a carbed 351 W in my '58 f100. It fits well but headers is an issue on account of the protruding steering box. If you are planning on using stock manifolds i would say that you should have clearance all around. If you go with headers you will need block huggers.

Also plan on making motor mounts with either motor. The 302 is wider than the 289 and the 351 W is wider than the 302. So either way you go you will probably need to make some mounts. It's no big deal though if you have a grinder with a cut off wheel and a welder. I made mine out of 4" c-channel and it fit the motor mounts like a glove.

One other thing to prepare for. You will need an electric fan for the radiator. That is the setup I have and it works fine. You can get one from JEGS or Summit Racing for less than $100. A regular fan wouldn't fit. It would be touching the radiator. At least it doesn't look like it would to me. I never tried it. On mine there is probably 1/2" between the water pump pulley and the back of the electric fan.

I know nothing about putting EFI into a non EFI vehicle. Though I have read about it before and it seems as though as long as you have the engine harness and the computer for that engine it is very doable. Granted you have enough patience to not only re-wire from the cab forward but also do something complicated without instructions.

Good luck. I look forward to seeing how it turns out.
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289 and 302 blocks are the same external dimensions.
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All the windsor V8's used the same engine mount location. 221-255-260-289-302-351. And as stated the 302, 289, 260 are identical sitting side by side. Never sen a 221 and the 255's were narrower.

351W's have a higher deck height therefore the heads sit farther apart and higher, and the intake is wider.

302's are car engines, I wouldn't put one in a truck. I say go with the 351 if you can get one. There are aftermarket harnesses available to keep the efi but you would be much much better off to convert it to mass air instead of using the speed density setup that comes with that 5.0 your considering.

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would the 351 windsor mount up to the 289 tranny the same?
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would the 351 windsor mount up to the 289 tranny the same?
Yes, see previous posts.

255 is same block size externally. Not sure about the heads, but never mind, NEVER have anything to do with a 255, they are hopeless

As for the 302 being a car engine, yes, it started that way and the Mustang engine certainly is a car engine. But, if you are coming off a 289, the 302 will work fine. A 351w will work better, so if you want a lot more torque in the lower revs, horse trade that 302 for some cash or a 351w.
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ok thanks everyone
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Has anyone ever put powerstering on a 59 ford? Where do you get the parts or off of what other pickup? And i did find a 351w for it (600$ 5000 miles on rebuid) and as much as i hate it im going to go with the carberated just to make everything a ton easyer
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