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#64
Ok so It might be a 427. I just remember I reading that an engine around that size was offered in a Fairlane GT, my memory is not perfect. Also I watched a 1967 Fairlane GT with a 390 pull 12 sec in the 1/4 mile, the guy claimed it was stock.
Also the reason I said 1965-1967 Fairlane is because that my favorite body style. And I still want one. Lol
Also the reason I said 1965-1967 Fairlane is because that my favorite body style. And I still want one. Lol
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...front_view.jpg
1966 Fairlane:
http://image.carcraft.com/f/10920366...front_view.jpg
1967 Fairlane:
http://www.musclecardrive.com/ford/i...irlane_427.jpg
I like the '66, then the '67. I've found at least one clean '65 for $7500 recently, as they do not have the following of the '64 (mini Galaxie) or the '66/67 (7/8s Galaxie).
12s out of a stock 390? If it weighs 3500lbs with the driver, that would be a neat trick.
#65
1965 Fairlane:
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...front_view.jpg
1966 Fairlane:
http://image.carcraft.com/f/10920366...front_view.jpg
1967 Fairlane:
http://www.musclecardrive.com/ford/i...irlane_427.jpg
I like the '66, then the '67. I've found at least one clean '65 for $7500 recently, as they do not have the following of the '64 (mini Galaxie) or the '66/67 (7/8s Galaxie).
12s out of a stock 390? If it weighs 3500lbs with the driver, that would be a neat trick.
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...front_view.jpg
1966 Fairlane:
http://image.carcraft.com/f/10920366...front_view.jpg
1967 Fairlane:
http://www.musclecardrive.com/ford/i...irlane_427.jpg
I like the '66, then the '67. I've found at least one clean '65 for $7500 recently, as they do not have the following of the '64 (mini Galaxie) or the '66/67 (7/8s Galaxie).
12s out of a stock 390? If it weighs 3500lbs with the driver, that would be a neat trick.
Also The guy said it was stock, however it didn't show the engine or anything. If I am not mistaking, he said it had the factory 4v intake and heads.
#66
I believe the "390 HO" you're thinking about is the 390GT/GTA (S-code) that was offered in the '66-'67Fairlanes. IIRC, it was rated at like 320hp/427Lbft. It had a slightly hotter camshaft and a cast iron 4V intake w/Holley (735 cfm?), but the biggest difference was the heads. They were not really any better than the standard 390 head in terms of flow, but had a unique bolt pattern to accept special exhaust manifolds designed to fit in the narrow engine bay of the Fairlane. Later, in '68, the same idea was used on the 428CJ heads for use in the Mustang/Fairlane chassis. The 427 was indeed offered in the '66-'67 Fairlane, but it was extremely rare. I've only seen 1 real one in my life. The '68-1/2 and '69 428SCJ Mustang was the hot ticket. It held many NHRA records and was considered at the time to be the fastest factory stock car available off the dealer's floor. Even then, you're looking at low 14's w/auto or maybe a high 13 w/drag pack and a good driver.
Like was said, in stock form the 390GT Fairlane/Mustang was a 15 sec. car (maybe high 14's at best). My brother used to have a '67 Fairlane 390GT/4 speed convertable until he sold it a couple years agos. I have one myself, but it's a complete basket case.
Like was said, in stock form the 390GT Fairlane/Mustang was a 15 sec. car (maybe high 14's at best). My brother used to have a '67 Fairlane 390GT/4 speed convertable until he sold it a couple years agos. I have one myself, but it's a complete basket case.
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#69
Anybody know of a 1964 Thunderbolt laying around in a barn somewhere...that's the car that I always wanted
As the advertisement stated: "All you need to go racing is the ignition key"
THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN BUILT SPECIALLY AS A LIGHTWEIGHT COMPETITIVE CAR AND INCLUDES CERTAIN FIBERGLASS AND ALUMINUM COMPONENTS. BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALIZED PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS CAR HAS BEEN BUILT AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE MAXIMUM WEIGHT REDUCTION, NORMAL QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY IN TERMS OF EXTERIOR PANEL FIT AND SURFACE APPEARANCE ARE NOT MET ON THIS VEHICLE.
THIS INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ON THIS VEHICLE TO ASSURE THAT ALL CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE THIS CAR ARE AWARE OF THE DEVIATION FROM THE REGULAR HIGH APPEARANCE QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY...but the back end looked great with those big lights
As the advertisement stated: "All you need to go racing is the ignition key"
THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN BUILT SPECIALLY AS A LIGHTWEIGHT COMPETITIVE CAR AND INCLUDES CERTAIN FIBERGLASS AND ALUMINUM COMPONENTS. BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALIZED PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS CAR HAS BEEN BUILT AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE MAXIMUM WEIGHT REDUCTION, NORMAL QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY IN TERMS OF EXTERIOR PANEL FIT AND SURFACE APPEARANCE ARE NOT MET ON THIS VEHICLE.
THIS INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ON THIS VEHICLE TO ASSURE THAT ALL CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE THIS CAR ARE AWARE OF THE DEVIATION FROM THE REGULAR HIGH APPEARANCE QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY...but the back end looked great with those big lights
#70
Anybody know of a 1964 Thunderbolt laying around in a barn somewhere...that's the car that I always wanted
As the advertisement stated: "All you need to go racing is the ignition key"
THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN BUILT SPECIALLY AS A LIGHTWEIGHT COMPETITIVE CAR AND INCLUDES CERTAIN FIBERGLASS AND ALUMINUM COMPONENTS. BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALIZED PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS CAR HAS BEEN BUILT AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE MAXIMUM WEIGHT REDUCTION, NORMAL QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY IN TERMS OF EXTERIOR PANEL FIT AND SURFACE APPEARANCE ARE NOT MET ON THIS VEHICLE.
THIS INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ON THIS VEHICLE TO ASSURE THAT ALL CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE THIS CAR ARE AWARE OF THE DEVIATION FROM THE REGULAR HIGH APPEARANCE QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY
As the advertisement stated: "All you need to go racing is the ignition key"
THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN BUILT SPECIALLY AS A LIGHTWEIGHT COMPETITIVE CAR AND INCLUDES CERTAIN FIBERGLASS AND ALUMINUM COMPONENTS. BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALIZED PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS CAR HAS BEEN BUILT AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE MAXIMUM WEIGHT REDUCTION, NORMAL QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY IN TERMS OF EXTERIOR PANEL FIT AND SURFACE APPEARANCE ARE NOT MET ON THIS VEHICLE.
THIS INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ON THIS VEHICLE TO ASSURE THAT ALL CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE THIS CAR ARE AWARE OF THE DEVIATION FROM THE REGULAR HIGH APPEARANCE QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY
1964 FORD THUNDERBOLT Lot 1018 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company
Register to bid now. This one might go cheap, as it needs a repaint and is missing the hub caps. Something is wrong with the hood also:
1964 Ford Fairlane 2-Door 427 Thunderbolt Drag Racer for sale by Mecum Auction
#71
Not only is the 390 well worth building, but it's about the only FE block left that can be found. Even the basic 390 can be turned into a real beast without much effort. A set of the early model heads with a mild pocket port, a good cam, aluminum 4V intake, headers and electronic ignition is all you need. If you can find a 410 or 428 crank and add CJ valves, even better.
It will lay down 400+ torque all day and never break.
Here's a pic of the 428 w/3X2V and cast iron headers I built for my '62 Galaxie 2dr sedan. It's hard to beat the looks of an FE block...
#72
The T-bolt tends to be a little expensive, even without whitewall tires or the bench front seat:
1964 FORD THUNDERBOLT Lot 1018 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company
Register to bid now. This one might go cheap, as it needs a repaint and is missing the hub caps. Something is wrong with the hood also:
1964 Ford Fairlane 2-Door 427 Thunderbolt Drag Racer for sale by Mecum Auction
1964 FORD THUNDERBOLT Lot 1018 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company
Register to bid now. This one might go cheap, as it needs a repaint and is missing the hub caps. Something is wrong with the hood also:
1964 Ford Fairlane 2-Door 427 Thunderbolt Drag Racer for sale by Mecum Auction
What a beautifull car, thanks for that link...now I can't wait to go get her home
#73
"The 427 was basically a large bore 390 and had the same 3.78" stroke......"
427s were a different block. Same external and bearing dimensions as all other FE motors, but not the same block with a bigger bore. They were expensive to produce, thus you will find 428s in places 427s should be.
".......The 428 was the same 4.13" bore as the old 406, but with the longer 3.98" stroke of the 410......."
Chicken and egg: The 410 is a 390 with a 428 crank and pistons made just for the 410. Both intro'd in '66, my guess is the 428 came first, followed by the "let's use these extra parts" 410.
A 360 is the same block as the 390, so those are also a good basis for an FE build.
427s were a different block. Same external and bearing dimensions as all other FE motors, but not the same block with a bigger bore. They were expensive to produce, thus you will find 428s in places 427s should be.
".......The 428 was the same 4.13" bore as the old 406, but with the longer 3.98" stroke of the 410......."
Chicken and egg: The 410 is a 390 with a 428 crank and pistons made just for the 410. Both intro'd in '66, my guess is the 428 came first, followed by the "let's use these extra parts" 410.
A 360 is the same block as the 390, so those are also a good basis for an FE build.
#74
Not only is the 390 well worth building, but it's about the only FE block left that can be found. Even the basic 390 can be turned into a real beast without much effort. A set of the early model heads with a mild pocket port, a good cam, aluminum 4V intake, headers and electronic ignition is all you need. If you can find a 410 or 428 crank and add CJ valves, even better.
It will lay down 400+ torque all day and never break.
That is neat, and helpful to know. So can a 360 block be bored to a 390? Since they are the same block.
#75
"The 427 was basically a large bore 390 and had the same 3.78" stroke......"
427s were a different block. Same external and bearing dimensions as all other FE motors, but not the same block with a bigger bore. They were expensive to produce, thus you will find 428s in places 427s should be.
".......The 428 was the same 4.13" bore as the old 406, but with the longer 3.98" stroke of the 410......."
Chicken and egg: The 410 is a 390 with a 428 crank and pistons made just for the 410. Both intro'd in '66, my guess is the 428 came first, followed by the "let's use these extra parts" 410.
A 360 is the same block as the 390, so those are also a good basis for an FE build.
427s were a different block. Same external and bearing dimensions as all other FE motors, but not the same block with a bigger bore. They were expensive to produce, thus you will find 428s in places 427s should be.
".......The 428 was the same 4.13" bore as the old 406, but with the longer 3.98" stroke of the 410......."
Chicken and egg: The 410 is a 390 with a 428 crank and pistons made just for the 410. Both intro'd in '66, my guess is the 428 came first, followed by the "let's use these extra parts" 410.
A 360 is the same block as the 390, so those are also a good basis for an FE build.