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Old 01-13-2012, 12:31 AM
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Question 1999 f250 4x4 5.4 superduty

so i bought a 99 f250 with a exploded tcase, anyone know what model this tcase is, its behind a automatic. also was wondering if anyone know if the np205 will bolt up to the trans in this truck, im assuming its a 4r100 since its a automatic.
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I'm pretty sure the ESOF t-case is the nv273 and the manual t-case is the nv271.
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well it must be the 271 then since its a manual tcase. thanks allot, what changed over the years on the cases? what ones are direct swaps with same flanges and such?
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here it is towed it home today, need a hood a fender, a transfercase! front driveshaft, headlights, a extend cab window and a few other things that i know of so far. maybe a engine too he said it runs good but has a knock, we will see if im gonna pull it and put a 460 in it or just see if i can fix the one in it. be a good girl truck since its got a shortbed and a 5.4

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Looks like a good project to me!!
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ya isnt to bad, im excited about it. also needs a tailgagte and reciever hitch. and front bumper.. the list is endless. but time will aquire these things.
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Looks like you got yourself a nice little project there. If it does need an engine, don't bother trying to swap a 460 in there. A 460 has roughly the same power as the 5.4 does. Plus it would be a lot of work to make everything fit since the newer modular engines are completely different from the older V-8s. If you are going to swap in anything other than another 5.4, go with a V-10.
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And, if you do put another 5.4L in it you should shop for one with the PI heads. I think 2000-2004 have those which bumps your HP from 235 to 260 and Torque from 335 to 350. Nothing major but if you stick with a 5.4L you might as well.
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if you knew me youd know im a man of convience not expense.

that being said, ive swapped just about anything into anything, and ive got me the perfect drivetrain waiting right here if that ones not good. its a carbbed 460 c6 and np205, thats what will be adorning this rig if what in it isnt up to par.

the latter will be allot more exciting build for sure.


but heck if the 5.4 runs ok and its a cheap fix if it isnt adn i can find a cheap tcase then heck im all for keeping it tell it blows.

or say if i found a real cheap running good 5.4 or v10, but that wont be the case, if i have to put much money into it, then the 5.4 and trans getting sold and the 460 gonna take over. im a softie for a 460 or a diesel. and i got to many diesels already.
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Hole in the transmission from driveshaft. tranny hole might be repairable, but i doulbt it. jbweld the piece back in!?





hole in tcase, deffinatly not repairable, replaceable yes. look at the split both front and rear of the halves! wow



all the fuses are gone, dont know where to put what color. anyone got a pic of theres on a 99 5.4l? anyone know what relays go where? they look to be missing too. this truck has crank windows and such too. so i dont think it had allot there to begin with.



alternator missing in action same with coolant bottle




probably just gonna pull the works, and sell the 5.4 and recycle the rest of the tcase and trans. the engine is supposed to have a knock anyhow, checked the oil it smelt fine but i believe somone tried to cure the knock or hide it because its oil is thick like that lucas crap people put in. could be because its -15f out too tho.

looks like we are leaning towards 460 c6 and 205. unless i find a heck of a deal on a tcase and a trans. or jbweld that section of the trans back in and hope the trans works.
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The 460 although torquey isn't as powerful as the 5.4L that replaced it. The 460/C6/NP205 combo although great on an older rig i fear is going to leave you with not the same reliability, driveabilty, MPG and comfort a rebuilt or swapped out 5.4L will. If this is just a mud rig then by all means I would but if you actually want to drive this daily just rebuild what it had in there originally. It can be replaced on the cheap from salvaged yard but takes some effort looking around.
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I don't know, but it seems to me if he's going to tackle the time and expense of putting this truck back together AND performing a drivetrain swap, chances are he wouldn't be leaving the 460 in total stock form. You can build a pretty stout 460.

If I were considering a swap like this, I'd put some thought into swapping on a GM throttle body setup in place of the carb- say one from a 454SS maybe. Painless Wiring makes the harness for such a swap. That way, you could still have the benefits of fuel injection with the look of a carb, complete with a chrome round air cleaner. Just something to think about.

Personally, I hope you do it- seems the only engine swaps people are willing to consider in a Super Duty are other factory-offered engines or a Cummins Diesel. It would be refreshing to see something different.
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I don't know, but it seems to me if he's going to tackle the time and expense of putting this truck back together AND performing a drivetrain swap, chances are he wouldn't be leaving the 460 in total stock form. You can build a pretty stout 460.

If I were considering a swap like this, I'd put some thought into swapping on a GM throttle body setup in place of the carb- say one from a 454SS maybe. Painless Wiring makes the harness for such a swap. That way, you could still have the benefits of fuel injection with the look of a carb, complete with a chrome round air cleaner. Just something to think about.

Personally, I hope you do it- seems the only engine swaps people are willing to consider in a Super Duty are other factory-offered engines or a Cummins Diesel. It would be refreshing to see something different.

good idea on the add on fuel injection, thats something i might consider down the line. can always hop up them 460s, they are a good engine in my opinion, and i dont consider a 5.4 a reliable engine. blowing plugs, the aluminum tcases, heck im probably gonna swap out the front axle and the rear axle too. not a big fan of unit bearings in the front. hate abs brakes with a passion also.

bring on the build! now if it just gets about the high of -9f today that would be great since i will be working out in the elements pretty much this might take tell it warms up quite a bit.

i will be on the lookout for a kingpin d60 front also.
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I hear ya! I was installing the front bumper today during our heat wave of 4 degrees F.
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thinking about putting a 6.9 diesel in it, or finding a 300 six also. i think i must have that ADD thing.
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