True enough but I can show you a lot of folks that don't share your opinion about the quality of ethanol (run it in all your lawn and garden equipment...oh yeah, the state says we don't have to because it's apparently not good for those engines) but then selling corn to the ethanol plants is not our livelihood so we do have a different perspective.
they say it is not requied for lawnmowers, because they are considered ILEV, not because they are harmfull.
i run it through everything ... got tired of having two different gasoline supplies, so i just use e10 in everything. (antique tractor, chainsaw, lawnmowers)
people say that the ethanol burns up small engines, damages pistons ect. but i have yet to see an explanation as to how a fuel that burns cooler, has higher octane, and contains less BTU burns a hole in a piston.
more than likely, the ethanol cleaned the crap out of the tank, and clogged up the carburator causing a lean condition and that's what damaged the engine. to some, the problem was caused by the ethanol, to me, this was caused by the gasoline.... crappy gas leaves deposits which the ethanol can disolve..... chicken and the egg.
i have no direct benefit from the ethanol industry ... i just think it is the right thing to do.
on a side note, I do think it would be interesting to see what emissions equipment would be required on an e85 or e98 vehicle to pass current standards.
i do appreciate the overall positive attiuted of this thread ... it is a touchy subject, and i am well aware of my minority position on this topic.
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they say it is not requied for lawnmowers, because they are considered ILEV, not because they are harmfull.
i run it through everything ... got tired of having two different gasoline supplies, so i just use e10 in everything. (antique tractor, chainsaw, lawnmowers)
people say that the ethanol burns up small engines, damages pistons ect. but i have yet to see an explanation as to how a fuel that burns cooler, has higher octane, and contains less BTU burns a hole in a piston.
more than likely, the ethanol cleaned the crap out of the tank, and clogged up the carburator causing a lean condition and that's what damaged the engine. to some, the problem was caused by the ethanol, to me, this was caused by the gasoline.... crappy gas leaves deposits which the ethanol can disolve..... chicken and the egg.
i have no direct benefit from the ethanol industry ... i just think it is the right thing to do.
on a side note, I do think it would be interesting to see what emissions equipment would be required on an e85 or e98 vehicle to pass current standards.
i do appreciate the overall positive attiuted of this thread ... it is a touchy subject, and i am well aware of my minority position on this topic.
Yeah, I do to and that's why I suggested this is not the right forum to pursue this subject. We have differing opinions for different reasons. I had ethanol eat up the fuel pick-up on my rather expensive 24" chain saw and was advised not to use ethanol in any of my small engines by the manufacturer. Ethanol may be getting a somewhat bad rap on some items but it gives poor fuel mileage and so-so performance and is not good in older fuel systems. It's good that MTBE's are gone. I think we should agree to disagree and with that, I'm gone. Have a nice day. Jim
I will continue to use ethanol in my vehicles (no choice), 4-stroke outboards on the fishing boat and pontoon, 4-stroke lawnmowers, bobcat, utv and tractor but will shy away from it with my 2-stroke weedeater and chainsaw. My experience is it has worked fine even with a 1973 skidsteer (Onan motor) and and a 1951 Farmall H. But I maybe wrecked a 2-stroke weedeater using ethanol. It is hard to tell because they make them things to be disposable anyway. Bottom line I still want to be able to chuckle to myself filling up while I say UP YOURS to those that sell us the oil while at the same time wanting to harm us. It may cost me a little more but that is ok. The farmers and others that make their money off the ethanol industry have to be able to afford the products my company and other companies make. That's what makes our country work. But I still want it to be my choice.
Eco-Boost mileage. Overall since took delivery 17.1 combined city/highway. Typical highway/freeway 19+. Best highway on 56 miles loop was 24 mpg with light throttle and braking but still doing speed limit. Mileage achieved on 10% ethanol. I am satified.
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