Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rear Gear Change?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-07-2012, 12:32 PM
F SUPER DUTY's Avatar
F SUPER DUTY
F SUPER DUTY is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rear Gear Change?

I have a 93 F Super Duty/450 460 gas with 5spd, Dana 80 5.13. The spider gears have broke and damaged the ring gear. My question. I will be rebuilding this should i put a higher gear in like 4.30. Would i lose much low end. Truck pulls a 12k trailer Has anyone done this swap and with what kind of results in performance. 4.88 4.63 are also available. Looking for less RPM at Highway speeds. Thanks, for any input.
 
  #2  
Old 01-07-2012, 01:10 PM
Phy's Avatar
Phy
Phy is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 8600 ft in Colo
Posts: 1,709
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I too have an F-SD with 5.13s. Yes, it's really low, but I do a lot of hauling and like the gearing. By comparison, I also have an F-350 with 4.10s, and the 5.13s are like shifting all the gears down one: 2nd. in the F-SD is almost as low as 1st. in the F-350.
You can calculate it all out...
Take the current RPM at highway speed, and what you'd like the RPM to be, and see what percentage of a change that is. Now take 5.13, reduce it by that percentage, and you have the new ratio.
For example, at 55mph, my F-SD is at about 2200 RPM. If I wanted it to be at 1800 RPM at the same speed, I take 1800, divide by 2200, and that gives me .818, then multiply that by 5.13, and I get the new ratio. 4.19. 4.10s would get me real close...
 
  #3  
Old 01-07-2012, 01:12 PM
RJJP's Avatar
RJJP
RJJP is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Clare, MI
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If I remember correctly, for anything lower than 4.63 you need a carrier change. Parts for the real Dana 80 (what you have) are expensive. Your best bet may be hitting up the scrap yards and looking for one that already has the 4.63 gears (they were a factory option) and get the whole axle.


ON EDIT:
No you wont loose much by going with the 4.63, used to have an 88 F-SuperDuty with the 460 ZF5 4.63 combo, with the way that it was set up 13,000 lbs was about it's lightest weight (it was a welding rig). We never had a problem pulling, couple of times had issues stopping the load, but pulling it was never a problem.
 
  #4  
Old 01-07-2012, 01:28 PM
Phy's Avatar
Phy
Phy is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 8600 ft in Colo
Posts: 1,709
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Yeah, 5.13 & 4.63 were the main ratios, and as RJJP said, parts are pricey...
When looking at bone yards, you need to have the VSS in the axle for the speedo, so you're looking for '92-'97 F-Super Dutys...
 
  #5  
Old 01-08-2012, 10:39 AM
F SUPER DUTY's Avatar
F SUPER DUTY
F SUPER DUTY is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the open carrier will take a 4.30gear. Also available is a 4.11 trimmed to fit. The 5.13 is a good puller no doubt. At 55 MPH with 30.5 in tires engine will turn 1980rpm with 4.30, 2163rpm with 4.63, 2247rpm with 4.88, 2362rpm with 5.13 . Parts availability is good for this axle.I am having trouble finding Technical info for rebuilding procedures for this specific axle.
 
  #6  
Old 01-08-2012, 04:39 PM
Phy's Avatar
Phy
Phy is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 8600 ft in Colo
Posts: 1,709
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
PM me with your email & I'll send you a .PDF...
 
  #7  
Old 01-08-2012, 10:19 PM
RJJP's Avatar
RJJP
RJJP is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Clare, MI
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Make sure you're looking for the Ford Dana 80, not the Dodge "Dana 80" the dodge was a hybrid. From what I've herd. Plus the physical size of what dodge claims to be a Dana 80 is about as big as a 10.25.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
crucialprospect
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
26
09-11-2017 04:29 AM
lawnspecialties
2017+ Super Duty
19
09-06-2017 04:50 PM
KHaygood
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
2
04-08-2010 07:27 AM
77F250Custom4spd
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
05-28-2008 02:58 PM
big block power
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
23
03-06-2002 08:23 PM



Quick Reply: Rear Gear Change?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:39 AM.