I spoke with a Ford engineer and it seems like some dealers were adding the fix for intercooler but not doing a PCM software update . . . The software update is at least if not more important than the intercooler upper shield.

 

Just this last week they reopened it since the fix was a failure all of it deflector, Cat and reprogram.

What I have a problem with is since they reopened it they do a investigation as to why it was a failure, and that takes 90 days then work on a new fix if they can find one. so we are looking at least 3 months before they start on looking for a new fix.

with lemon laws they have like 10 days to fix it once served don't see how they can do that when they have no ideal.

this will be my last resort Ford seems to be trying to work with me

 

Since Fomoco is on such a huge ecoboost push right now am sure they also want a fix. What I have found is they HATE internet postings about their babies. In this case the ecoboost. A few years back it was the GT500, Ford GT etc. Ford people read postings all the time but they just cannot comment.

The more the word gets out there may be an issue the more ford wants a fix. I have found it takes a LOT to get them into high gear to fix an issue!

I have also found the BEST & FASTEST way to have a particular issue fixed with an ongoing issue like OP is a letter from an Attorney. At this point they "really" know how serious you are and they will put you in another vehicle to make it "go away".

I have also found that ford will take in a lemon and make a "DEAL"with the dealer to buy the person out and not put a LEMON tag on said vehicle.

I personally had fomoco do that to me. They lemoned the vehicle but it never showed on carfax etc. They sold the vehicle as NEW and when sold the miles was less than when I gave it back to ford! They buyer had no clue the car had been sold prior...

 

Thats what I told Ford Friday when I got done with my 800 mile trip and almost got creamed by a tractor trailer.
I don't want a refund I just want to go into a V8 and even that the ecoboost when running fine is a great motor, I just don't trust it anymore,

Today I was on a 6 line freeway coming back from TN to FL and it was acting up pulling out of rest stops, but then the road got busy and I got stuck behind a 18 wheeler doing 55 in a 70 you would think all I have to do is step on it pull into another lane in with traffic but this truck has got me second guessing pulling anywhere and giving it some gas.

I have been looking at lemon attorneys, but giving ford a chance but their time is running out.

 

Guys I understand this is a sore point with many of you and I truly can't blame you.

That said, we need to leave the legal discussion out of the threads on FTE. Per the Guidelines:

8. Legal Actions.

You may not use this site to discuss or organize any legal action including, but not limited to, class-actions. FTE does not give legal advice or host legal discussion. If you have any legal questions or concerns, please consult your attorney.

Thanks in advance.

 

Corp. Ford

Just let me know

engineering is looking into the concern and looking to have a repair out by the end of September.

 

My friend should have her lemon law completed and new 5.0 truck by then.

 

My 2011 EB has just over 50,000 miles on it. In that time I've have the same issue (power loss trying to accelerate in rainy weather) five times. I didn't take it in to the dealer until the third episode. The first "fix" included the PCM update and the intercooler shield. Last week it was the left side cat (wouldn't replace that until they could read a specific code). Yesterday - same problem. Ford doesn't have a fix yet.

 

I wonder if Mike's 5-Star programmer would fix this issue? Anyone call him to find out.

Pap

 

Still dealing with this issue myself. It just went into Ford for the 7th time today but this time it was a result of my contacting Ford corporate. Supposedly the regional rep is getting involved but they refused to pass along her contact information.

Even though I was in for this over all issue before the warranty was up the corporate supervisor noted that I was out of warranty and my coverage was strictly limited to parts already replaced.

 

Any updates on this situation? My friend is beginning her lemon law suit.

Pap

 

I also wonder why the left side cat as well?? is is something to do with the way the water flows to that side first or something?

I am getting worried now too... crap!

 

When water gets into a cylinder the plug/ignition/spark fails. {Water does not burn}.
The injection of fuel into the cylinder is still being done and is pumped out the exhaust.
Raw fuel in the cats overheats the first cat and can melt the substrate.
This can restrict exhaust gas flow, cause poor mileage and burn the OX sensors. The temps can get well over 1000 degrees.
Result is poor fuel mileage from the restriction and damaged OX sensor.
When a cat is damaged that bad, putting a Scanner on to look at the Rear OX sensor switching should reveal the condition.
Also a cat code should be present if the cat no longer meets min. oxygen storage limits.
For the driving issue, a Scanner set to Trap the fault will freeze the data and give an indication of what happened.
If water is being pumped into the motor killing ignition on one or more cylinders, then clears out, the code/s for that/those cylinders could be cancelled because it's not logiced a hard fault since the condition is no longer present once it clears.
Good luck.

 

That's a great write up. Is there a TSB explaining this situation?

Pap

 

Likely not.
It's just from a well informed technical point of view.
If water is collecting in the bottom of the cooler, it is being picked up when huge power is called for by the high velocity air stream much the same way oil in the pan is airated and picked up by the crank.
The bottom of the cooler should have a tank space for the condensation to run into below a covered area.
The high airflow is then prevented from picking up the condensate, forcing it into the motor in volume.
On the bottom of the tank area a PCM controlled drain valve could be placed to purge that space during closed throttle times even if it was done by hand switch after the fact.
Pumping water through any motor is dangerous when it's not in a fine mist of limited amounts.
Good luck.