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Old 12-20-2011, 12:59 PM
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what transmission do i have?

got a 64 f100 4x4 i'm swapping motors in and ill be using the same trans that was behind the 390 when i got it what transmission is this? also does anyone have a picture of there clutch setup and where this fork will go on the bearing that spreads the fingers on the pressure plate







 
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:13 PM
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Borg Warner T-98 4 speed manual: 1954/64 I-6 & Y blocks / Studebaker, Dodge and other makes of trucks / Not installed after 1964 in F100/350's, nor in any year FoMoCo Passenger Cars.

1965/67 F100/350 352 were available with either the Borg Warner T-18 or New Process 435 4 speeds. Ditto 1968/76 F100/350 360/390.

> > 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog / Illustration Section 75, Page 1 shows the whole enchilada: clutch linkage, clutch pedal, fork, bellhousing, clutch disc, pressure plate and etc for 1964 F100/750. < <

A coupla members of this forum have this catalog on a CD, can scan and post pics / You can buy your own CD catalog for 22 bucks from hipoparts.com
 
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It was bolted to a seized 390 but I just swapped the bad motor out and put in a running 360 in its place I'm stuck on installing the clutch fork where it gos on the bearing
 
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Fork rides on the T/O bearing collar. Clutch adjusting rod attaches to the equalizer (Z) bar...then to fork.

The rod uses a plain 'ol 3/8" -24 adjusting nut and this: 351062-S8 .. 3/8" -24 1/2" thick convex adjusting nut that fits into the hole on the forks backside.

IMO, peeps that own these old rolling piles of misery should have the apropos parts catalog. It's the first thing y'all should buy after dragging/towing/pushing/driving the pile of misery home.

With 4,941 pages of text, 1,961 pages of illustrations, you'll never have to ask to see a pic again = 1964/72 truck CD catalog is 22 buckaroo's.

Post #2: I listed the parts catalog illustration section/page number of the whole enchilada. Maybe one of the FEW (sigh) peeps that has this catalog on a CD...will see the reference, scan & post the pic.
 
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It should be pretty straight forward. The trans bolts to the bellhousing. The trans has an input shaft that the throwout bearing rides on. The shift fork moves the TOB into the clutch fingers. Im not sure beyond that what you are asking about. Here is a pic of the bellhousing with the shift fork in place in it.



Dont know if this will help. Hope it does.
 
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:28 PM
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If this is not enough I should have a TOB sitting on the input shaft of a T98 that I can dig out and take a quick pic so you can see how the fork rides on it.
 
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I'm stuck on where at on the throw out bearing the clutch fork rides at
 
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Ill take a look at what I have for that ap when I get home from work tonight. Ill get some pics up. It should be pretty straight forward if I recall the TOB has a large side that goes to the clutch or motor side and a channel on the backside of the bearing face that the fork fits into. I should have it and Ill post up a pic.

Here are some pics of TOB and SF in the position that they would be installed.






The large bearing face goes toward the pressure plate and clutch. The fork rides on the side facing the trans.
 
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Thanks buzz that's what I was looking for I had to pull the trans and turn the TOB around I only messed with hydraulic clutch setups until now I should of went with my first instinct on which way to try it does anyone know what oil and how much I'll need when I change the oil in my transmission? Hey buzz did you finish up your brakes in your slick yet I wanted to see how the 79 master cylinder and booster worked out for you
 
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Thanks buzz that's what I was looking for I had to pull the trans and turn the TOB around I only messed with hydraulic clutch setups until now I should of went with my first instinct on which way to try it does anyone know what oil and how much I'll need when I change the oil in my transmission? Hey buzz did you finish up your brakes in your slick yet I wanted to see how the 79 master cylinder and booster worked out for you
Brake job is done. I have not road tested it as Im still doing a few other things with the interior. I had to get the 2wd 4speed shifter rebent to clear the TFC shifter. Finding someplace to do that was an experience. Not many rod shops around town to go to. I finally found a welding shop that was willing to give it a try. Not quite right but it will do for now. As to the power brake booster and dualMC I did not get that installed it will have to wait for summer. To cramped and cold in my garage right now to mess with that. It is out of a 72 F250 4x4 with drum brakes at the corners. I did a visual size up and it looks pretty much like a bolt in proposition. When I start in on that I will post up the pics of the progress. Hope the pics help you get your 4x4 up and running. Ill pull the service manual tommorow and give you what Ford calls for. I have been using 80w90 gear oil without any adverse effects. Ill check though if Ford call for something else I may change my ways.
 
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Crazed..do you have any pics of the truck this is going into ??? Whats the warranty plate info on it ???

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Thanks buzz that's what I was looking for I had to pull the trans and turn the TOB around I only messed with hydraulic clutch setups until now I should of went with my first instinct on which way to try it does anyone know what oil and how much I'll need when I change the oil in my transmission? Hey buzz did you finish up your brakes in your slick yet I wanted to see how the 79 master cylinder and booster worked out for you
T-98 SM calls for 8 pints 80-w-90 should be fine according to the service manual. If you are going to be using the truck in extreme cold weather use a straight 50w motor oil or mineral oil. If above 10 degree use 90 if below 10 degree use 80 so 80-90 is for a broad temp use gear oil. May be a little stout when you first start off in sub 10 degree temps so give it a few miles to warm and flow freely. Ive never had any problems using it so you should be fine. On a side your T-98 trans weighs 145 lbs.
 
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Great info thanks did you find all this info in the manual they sell on a cd from hipoparts? Camper ill take some pics and post them nothing special a rough 64 f100 4x4 should be running by the end of the weekend as long as I figure out some of the wiring and get the right size belts
 
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Great info thanks did you find all this info in the manual they sell on a cd from hipoparts? Camper ill take some pics and post them nothing special a rough 64 f100 4x4 should be running by the end of the weekend as long as I figure out some of the wiring and get the right size belts
It is the original paper service manual. 61 Ford with the supplement for 62-63. I picked it up over 20yrs ago at a large truck convention and show that was here in town. There was one who conference room full of vendors selling all sorts of paper and books related to all trucks large and small. It was long before ebay.Id sure like to see some pix mine are both the same 63 not running at all under construction and the 65 is up and running but needs a complete restoration. It is easier to take the paper manual to the garage when I need to sit and take a think on what I have to do to repair something or fix it back to original or close.When Bill aka NumbersDummy says you should one or both parts and shop manual he knows what he is talking about it can be invaluable info to help restore or keep these old beasts of burden running. Have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
 
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got the truck fired up on new years eve runs decent havent driven it yet though needed to get some wiring straightened out throttle linkage and heater core almost ready to see if she will move now that i got some of the stuff done should be able to try to move it by the end of the weekend. another question would the transfer case take gear oil to i want to flush that before i try it heres some pics its rough





 


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