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What a nice stable of trucks you manage to turn up, good for you.

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i will also add my welcome to FTE. the vets here have forgotten more than i will probably ever know. you found the right place. As Stu noted i do have 6 of the 71410's. i may be talked into parting with one but i lets wait awhile and see if you can find a couple more. on a side note, 8 of some sort 19.5s turned up in Fort Wayne IN. yesterday. my old Army buddy was going to look at some bedsides for his chivy truck and called me to see if i was interested. long story short, asked him to look for a number on the wheels and he couldnt find one. he also said they came off a chivy truck. texted Stu about it and sent him some pics. everything points to KH wheels but it would be good if someone was close enough to put another set of eyes on them. all had tires, $250 for the set with bad tires, $350 for the set with good tires. there were even some traction tires in the bunch. they have been sitting outside so dont count on the good tires being to good. working on getting a name and number.
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Re-reading this, am I correct that you have the #71410s on the rear now? You didn't somehow get the unnumbered ones to clear your rear hubs, did you? If you've gotten all four of the ones with hub cap clips/clip holes on the truck I'll be scratching my head trying to figure out how that's possible.

The original widow maker wheels are Budd #49380-D1. They are 17" (not 17.5") x 5.5" and have 9/16" of positive offset. I really doubt the 1/16" difference on the Budd #71410 (19.5" x 5.25" with 1/2" offset), or 1/8" difference with the K-H #40261 (19.5" x 5.25" with 7/16" offset) would make any difference in the truck's handling. On the other hand, if you've got the K-H #43814/#85063s with 1 5/8" offset the chances get greater that it might be an issue. It certainly might look odd having the front wheels sit inboard an extra inch+ on each side. You're the first I've heard who has found and put to use the Chevy/GMC wheels on a Ford. Since you've changed nothing else on the truck to increase its speed I really doubt you'll have any issues. Other than not being able to use one of your extras as a spare on the rear due to the smaller center hole (if my original assumptions were correct).

I'm sure you'll continue to watch for more of the #71410s. There was an eBay seller in CA a couple months ago that listed three. They were on there a couple times and went unsold. Also, a set of five appeared on CL in NH about the same time. Don't know whether they sold. I found one on CL locally a while back and am waiting for the seller to pull the other four off the truck. I've offered to give him four junk wheels/tires so he can keep the truck a roller when it goes to the crusher, but haven't gotten him to act on it. I also missed out on two at an auction a few months ago. I was in the small town for the preview but couldn't stay for the auction the following day. I know of one other full set that is owned by our friend Mark (thundersnow70). Whether he'd break his set I can't say. My point is that more are out there, and will turn up.

When they do turn up, I'm pretty sure the Chevy/GMC guys look for their 19.5s like we do ours. So you should be able to find them a good home when that day comes. Stu


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Thanks again for your information Stu. These are the two Budd 71410 I have. I cleaned one up and have a new tire on it for my spare, the other is as found. To clarify, I have the unnumbered rims on all for corners. and they fit just fine, no pounding,cutting, prying etc... needed to put them on. Is it possible they are some old foreign manufacturer? When I get the chance, I will pull them off and reinspect them again for numbers or stamps and take some measurements and post what I find. I will also get back with the junkman and try to identify for sure the vehicle it came off of. I appreciate your effort in trying to solve this puzzle.

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I'm stumped. It's possible there were other wheels made that I don't have records of. Without part numbers or other manufacturer markings there's no way to know. What matters is they fit. You might check to see what the diameter of the center hole is. If it's 4 7/8" they are for a Ford/Dodge/Studebaker. If 4 5/8" you might post a picture of the rear axle. Since you bought the truck restored, a prior owner might have done a rear end swap and used a GM donor. Stu
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i will also add my welcome to FTE. the vets here have forgotten more than i will probably ever know. you found the right place. As Stu noted i do have 6 of the 71410's. i may be talked into parting with one but i lets wait awhile and see if you can find a couple more. on a side note, 8 of some sort 19.5s turned up in Fort Wayne IN. yesterday. my old Army buddy was going to look at some bedsides for his chivy truck and called me to see if i was interested. long story short, asked him to look for a number on the wheels and he couldnt find one. he also said they came off a chivy truck. texted Stu about it and sent him some pics. everything points to KH wheels but it would be good if someone was close enough to put another set of eyes on them. all had tires, $250 for the set with bad tires, $350 for the set with good tires. there were even some traction tires in the bunch. they have been sitting outside so dont count on the good tires being to good. working on getting a name and number.
Thanks for the leads on these rare 19.5" rims and I will earmark you as a possible source for one. I will be looking for more Budd 71410 rims until I get a full set.
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