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Old 12-16-2011, 01:49 PM
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How-to: Spare tire Drop after 38G tank install...

So,

I had the 38G tank installed and I did not see any where where this is covered...

As I am new, I thought I'd contribute.... earn my keep as it were.

Parts:

- 2 six inch lengths of M14 x 2 all thread
- 2 M14 x 2 coupler nuts ( Coupling Nuts - Coupling Nuts | MSCDirect.com )
- 4 M14 x 2 Jam Nuts ( Metric Hex Jam Nuts - Hex Nuts | MSCDirect.com )

Notes:

- You have to buy the Jam nuts in a box of 50... I bought a box... contact me if you are doing this and I can send you some.

- Coupler nuts come in qtys of 5. I have 3 left so again contact me and we can arrange something.

- I still have enough all thread for at least 1 more setup cause it comes in 1 meter lengths.

Tools:

Hacksaw or sawsall
File
wrenches (22mm)
Anti-seize

Instructions:

This is pretty straight forward.

Use your cutting tool and cut down the all thread to 2 6" peices

File each end of the all thread so that there are no burs and test it with the coupler nuts.

on each peice of all-thread, thread on a jam nut and then a coupler nut and position the coupler nut half way on and tighten up the jam nut.

Take the rear spare tire bolt (the one with the loop) and thread a jam nut on.

Tighten the spare tire bolt into one of the all-thread coupler nuts and tighten the jam nut onto it.

Put the other bolt through the tire carrier and thread a jam nut onto it.

Thread the other all-thread onto the last tire carrier bolt and tighen the jam nut

Put the tire carrier back up into position and be sure you put anti-seize on the end that goes into the frame... and you are done!

Results:

One of the big concerns is ground clearance...

On my truck, with 265/75R16 tires and stock ride height for a 2WD I have 8 inches to the dome on the center bolt (lowest point).

That is about the same as the bottom of the rear diff.

You defiantly will not be off roading with that thing on there but for general on road and dirt roads it's fine.

Also, If you have the stock tire size (235/85R16) you should have about an inch more ground clearance (30mm extra).

-Richard

EDT: Pictures...
here is what the front bolt came out to be...

And the rear...

and a look at the tire installed...
 

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Old 12-16-2011, 02:04 PM
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This thread needs pictures!!!!
 
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:28 PM
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This thread needs pictures!!!!
I know....

I got called into work... I'll take some when I get home... if it's still light...

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I have to drop my rear tank and look for a leak and I'm still considering this mod. Where did you get your tank and will your spare still fit?
 
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I have to drop my rear tank and look for a leak and I'm still considering this mod. Where did you get your tank and will your spare still fit?
I got the tank from amazon.com. An yes the spare still fits.
I had my mechanic put it in as I didn't really want to do it my self and he gave me a good rate. He said it went well.

he put the spare in the bed so I did that part.

I did not get home till after dark so no pictures last night... I am getting up now so I take a couple in a bit.

Richard

EDT: link to tank... free shipping and no tax! http://www.amazon.com/Spectra-Premiu...4138865&sr=1-1

EDT2: went up in price tho... I got it for $145
 
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:18 AM
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This thread needs pictures!!!!
Done!
 
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I don't see the $145 price? Did you get the straps etc. they list? What year etc. did this tank go into. I've seen some listed on LMC truck site.
 
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Originally Posted by oldbird1965
I don't see the $145 price? Did you get the straps etc. they list? What year etc. did this tank go into. I've seen some listed on LMC truck site.
Amazon's stuff fluctuates in price a bit. I got it on black Friday so it may have been more heavly discounted than usual. I have seen it in the past hovering around $180... that is why I pulled the trigger when it hit $145.

Here is Jim's (Rosewood Diesel) writeup on it...

Performance Injectors for 7.3L Ford Power Strokes

My guy did not mention any issues regarding the spacers and I don't have the skid plate so that may have made some difference. He also took Jim's advice and pulled the bed.

Oh, and I didn't bother painting the tank... we don't have rust here.

Richard

EDT: where in AZ are you btw?
 
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I don't feel like pulling the bed. Can it be done without pulling the bed? I have an extra aux tank that holds 40 gallons so I'm not that serious about the mod. I'm in Lake Havasu City, where are you at?

 
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I don't feel like pulling the bed. Can it be done without pulling the bed? I have an extra aux tank that holds 40 gallons so I'm not that serious about the mod. I'm in Lake Havasu City, where are you at?
I am in the Tucson area... yes, you can do it without pulling the bed as Jim did... he just said it was a bit of a pain to get the hoses on... but do-able.

See the aforementioned link...

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Oh... I did find one unexpected thing... the fuel pumps at the QT stop at $125... and then you have to re-credit card and start again...

Kinda a pain in the butt...

Richard
 
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Oh... I did find one unexpected thing... the fuel pumps at the QT stop at $125... and then you have to re-credit card and start again...

Kinda a pain in the butt...

Richard
I travel all over the country from mid April to mid Oct and its defiently a pain the butt. I've had some cut me off at $50 and gone inside and told them a small car can't fill up for that amount and are you in the business of selling fuel or making your customers beg for fuel. It pisses me off. At truck stops you have to go inside and give them your credic card for them to even turn on the pump. I know these poor guys just work there but I feel if I dump on them then maybe they will forward that info on to their boss. $125 is a lot better then most! I've used up to three credic cards at some stops to get full. My wife says, "are you done yet?" LOL

EDIT: I have called my bank about it to see if its them cutting me off or the gas station. The bank blames the gas station. I have talked to the managers of gas stations about it and they blame the banks. Go figure.
 
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Well.... it has been over a year and I still have not caught the spare on anything.

If you figure that most cars have less than 5" of ground clearance it makes sense. If you are mostly on road it is not an issue...

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All I did was cut the oem rods in 1/2, stuck them in an appropriately sized piece of gas pipe and welded them together. Worked great. Been on the truck for years now.
 
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