What year was the sparkplug ejection fixed?
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#4
If I'm in error here someone hopefully will correct me...............
In about '03 or '04 all modular heads had the plug holes modified to have approx eight threads per hole as opposed to the earlier verions with only four.
Honestly it seems this issue wasn't necessarily from a bad design but more from poor maintenance along with incorrect techniques used during plug changes. Having now owned two E250's with "early" modular motors there have been no issues. Following the recommended plug changing suggestions appears to solve or greatly reduce this problem.
In about '03 or '04 all modular heads had the plug holes modified to have approx eight threads per hole as opposed to the earlier verions with only four.
Honestly it seems this issue wasn't necessarily from a bad design but more from poor maintenance along with incorrect techniques used during plug changes. Having now owned two E250's with "early" modular motors there have been no issues. Following the recommended plug changing suggestions appears to solve or greatly reduce this problem.
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The only 2V heads with 8 threads are on engines from the mid 2003 model and up. All early 2003 back have 4 threads in the head.
Sorry Hodges710, you have 4 thread heads.
Yes, the main issue is from either loose plugs or from them being over torqued and pulling the threads loose in the heads.
Sorry Hodges710, you have 4 thread heads.
Yes, the main issue is from either loose plugs or from them being over torqued and pulling the threads loose in the heads.
#7
The only 2V heads with 8 threads are on engines from the mid 2003 model and up. All early 2003 back have 4 threads in the head.
Sorry Hodges710, you have 4 thread heads.
Yes, the main issue is from either loose plugs or from them being over torqued and pulling the threads loose in the heads.
Sorry Hodges710, you have 4 thread heads.
Yes, the main issue is from either loose plugs or from them being over torqued and pulling the threads loose in the heads.
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#8
You don't have a stock '98 engine with 8 threads.
As for curing it, there have been a few on the forums that allegedly have still spit a plug with 8, too many variables to prove it wasn't operator error on an install or they really had an early '03 with 4.
The 2 piece issue is for 3V's from '04- mid '08MY and they break in half because the plug seizes in the head. I suppose your 8 thread '98 also has 2 piece 3V plugs too though.
As for curing it, there have been a few on the forums that allegedly have still spit a plug with 8, too many variables to prove it wasn't operator error on an install or they really had an early '03 with 4.
The 2 piece issue is for 3V's from '04- mid '08MY and they break in half because the plug seizes in the head. I suppose your 8 thread '98 also has 2 piece 3V plugs too though.
#9
You don't have a stock '98 engine with 8 threads.
As for curing it, there have been a few on the forums that allegedly have still spit a plug with 8, too many variables to prove it wasn't operator error on an install or they really had an early '03 with 4.
The 2 piece issue is for 3V's from '04- mid '08MY and they break in half because the plug seizes in the head. I suppose your 8 thread '98 also has 2 piece 3V plugs too though.
As for curing it, there have been a few on the forums that allegedly have still spit a plug with 8, too many variables to prove it wasn't operator error on an install or they really had an early '03 with 4.
The 2 piece issue is for 3V's from '04- mid '08MY and they break in half because the plug seizes in the head. I suppose your 8 thread '98 also has 2 piece 3V plugs too though.
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#11
I read somewhere that the issue was fixed by November 2002.
#12
Not changing the plugs for 100k+ seems to be a big part of the issue.
The plugs can work loose and eventually blow one out.
My 2002 6.8L has the PI heads with 7 or 8 threads and it blew one out at 108k.
I changed plugs/boots on our 2003 5.4L at 100k and am now changing them again at 150k with no problems so far.
There are at least 5 or 6 other cases I have read about that blew out plugs with 100k+ miles on them.
At the very least check the torque at 40k or so.
I'll be changing plugs/boots every 50k and checking the torque (14ft/lbs) at 10k.
The plugs can work loose and eventually blow one out.
My 2002 6.8L has the PI heads with 7 or 8 threads and it blew one out at 108k.
I changed plugs/boots on our 2003 5.4L at 100k and am now changing them again at 150k with no problems so far.
There are at least 5 or 6 other cases I have read about that blew out plugs with 100k+ miles on them.
At the very least check the torque at 40k or so.
I'll be changing plugs/boots every 50k and checking the torque (14ft/lbs) at 10k.
#13
Proper installation and proper torque does seem to have a huge influence over this issue so careful attention is paid there. I use nothing but Motorcraft plugs, a dab of nickel-based anti-seize on the treads as well as torquing them in at 22-23 ft/lbs. In just about 200K miles with two different E-Series 5.4 motors I've yet to have any issues at all with loose or blown out plugs.
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I thought the same, but when I changed the plugs on the 5.4L and 6.8L at just over 100k they were running great and the plugs looked fine. I'm still going to change them at 50k. The 6.8L #3 plug was the one that blew out. I checked the torque, 14ft/lbs, on the 6.8L plugs before I removed them and all the bank 1 plugs turned a bit before the wrench clicked. Bank 2 was tight.
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