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Old 12-14-2011, 10:07 AM
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I did a lot of different things but being that a had a 460 in my jetboat and knew how to make them run well it made it easy. Also there are no emissions where I live being that in my build even the the check engine will not come on because I removed the comp it will pass. I removed everything and brought it back to basics. I have an electric choke, ran it off the "S" term on the alt. I still have the egr hooked to vac and the adv hooked also to vac. Themost important is temp and oil pressure. I ran a manual fuel pump so I was able to eleminate the electric failures.
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Made some progress this weekend....

Generated a few questions:

1. What type of plugs should I use to plug the ports in the "Main Vacuum" for the items that I am eliminating? Dont think they are threaded ports, right?

2. I am going to remove the EGR and EGR plate under the carb and replace it with a carb spacer block. Any issues or comments on this?

3. I opened the carb rebuild kit and crapo are there alot of unlabeled parts in there. Yes there is the schematic diagram, but none of the parts in the bags are labeled as to where they go. I have never rebuilt a vehicle carb before although I have done NUMEROUS sled, jetski, and other small engine carbs. Scared me away from attempting it this weekend. Any advice?

4. other than a local autoparts store, is there a good place to buy parts? I am wanting to replace the "low oil pressure fuel shut off" sensor and re-hook it up since its just jumpered now.

On a cosmetic note... I got the rear frame stripped down and coated with under-coating. Going to be visible with the flatbed on it and should make it look much nicer.
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1) The ports in the manifold are threaded. If you are eliminating one of multiple lines on the "tree" either get another fitting or just cap them.

2) The EGR crossover in the intake projects beyond a normal spacer footprint.
You can try and make a custom spacer, or just do like I said and put a piece of stainless shim stock under the EGR itself. Out at the end of the 'neck' of the stock spacer.
Or, cut the neck off and weld up the two ports.
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3) Just work on a clean surface and lay everything out.
Be methodical, and follow the instructions exactly.
The Holley kit is very detailed but co rains parts to cover multiple models.
You WILL have leftovers.

4) Usually if NAPA can't get it for me I just go to the dealer.
The parts guy there is very helpful to me.
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Cant I use a block off/spacer plate like this?

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It's a Transdapt #2199 EGR blockoff/carb adapter.
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Unfortunately Ard is correct. The EGR intakes have a port that runs into the manifold on the passenger side (IIRC). It will allow a huge vacuum leak. I just threaded this port and put in a pipe plug with a lot of pipe dope to seal it off. The blockoff adapter may work for you as the flange on the bottom in the pic should seal off that port. Make sure it is well sealed or you will have those aforementioned vacuum leaks.
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Judging by the look of that Transdapt spacer you should be okay.
You made no mention of it, and I said "normal carb spacer"...
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Another route you may want to go if you fear vacuum leaks is an aftermarket non-EGR intake. It's a little more work, but you don't have to worry about vacuum leaks.
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Edit... Hummm... not sure what to do... Going to see if I can find some reviews on that plate.
found some on amazon for like $50
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:04 AM
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great job, don't be scared of a carb rebuild unless it's a Holly, I use to hate scraping the gasket seals off them. Just do section by section and replace what you can.
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A new manifold is easy enough to replace. They're not all that expensive:

Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifold Ford 429/460 Fits Stock Heads 2166 (085347021666) | eBay

You'll have to buy a gasket kit of course, but that's pennies....
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great job, don't be scared of a carb rebuild unless it's a Holly, I use to hate scraping the gasket seals off them. Just do section by section and replace what you can.
It is a Holley.


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A new manifold is easy enough to replace. They're not all that expensive:

Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifold Ford 429/460 Fits Stock Heads 2166 (085347021666) | eBay

You'll have to buy a gasket kit of course, but that's pennies....
Eventually I think that will be the route I will go. Before I dump too much $$ into it, I want to be sure its running properly and usable. For now, I think I am going to make a small aluminum block off plate to eliminate just the EGR and leave the stock plate.




This weekend should be a productive weekend. Hope to be driving it next week!
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Another question....


Is there any way for me to know with out going home and measuring, what size rear break pads I need? I am ordering new parking break cables and pads and a rebuild kit for the rear drums. The cables I had the measurements for, but the autoparts store needs to know if they are 2.5" or 3" pads.

Would the 250 have the larger breaks regardless?
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Is there any way for me to know with out going home and measuring, what size rear break pads I need? I am ordering new parking break cables and pads and a rebuild kit for the rear drums. The cables I had the measurements for, but the autoparts store needs to know if they are 2.5" or 3" pads.

Would the 250 have the larger brakes regardless?
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To answer your question, no - best thing to do is go measure.

There was the F250 and the F250HD.

2WD and 4WD.

And different GVWRs.

Add to that, there is no telling what somebody in the past may have done to the axle and what you actually have installed right now (ask me why I have this attitude).
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crap... headed home I guess. Want the parts before the weekend.
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