Excursion Roof Rack Modifications
#16
Got a little more done before I ran out of shielding gas for the welder. I hope you guys like it so far. Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736417/" title="2011-12-06 11.40.11 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6474736417_bd9caaa507.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 11.40.11"></a>
More grinding off the galvanizing and some fish mouthing to make a better fit.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736565/" title="2011-12-06 13.02.48 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6474736565_478cf48caa.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="2011-12-06 13.02.48"></a>
Laying out the bars the length of the rack.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736705/" title="2011-12-06 14.54.35 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6474736705_3b94aabb91.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 14.54.35"></a>
Finish welding on the supports that run across the roof. I used 2 layers for the floor of the safari rack. One frame on the bottom with bars across the width of the roof and a second frame with bars running the length of the roof. It is probably more than I needed for support but I would rather have it overbuilt the fail while running down the road.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736853/" title="2011-12-06 14.54.44 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6474736853_daedb88cfd.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 14.54.44"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736985/" title="2011-12-06 14.55.03 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6474736985_4468e97587.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 14.55.03"></a>
Laid out of the roof to check the looks and placement. I was freaking out tht it was too big, until I put it on the roof and was reminded how big the Excursion was again.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6483572249/" title="2011-12-06 15-1.52.29 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6483572249_fcbf17a215.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="2011-12-06 15-1.52.29"></a>
I put the 2 layers together and started tacking everything into place. I had to tack everywhere the bars crossed to keep things from moving or rattling.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6483572389/" title="2011-12-07 12.05.04 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6483572389_7cc69887a5.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-07 12.05.04"></a>
Laying out the upper rail. Trying to make sure it is square without any helpers sucked. I had to use the magnets, clamps, and straps to keep it square and get it tacked into place.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6483572749/" title="2011-12-09 15.28.28 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6483572749_6ae5eff0a8.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-09 15.28.28"></a>
All of the supports tacked into place just waiting to be fully welded.
I do have a trick or two left, but that will have to wait for a gas refill and a little more time. Hope I get it all done before our trip in 8 days.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736417/" title="2011-12-06 11.40.11 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6474736417_bd9caaa507.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 11.40.11"></a>
More grinding off the galvanizing and some fish mouthing to make a better fit.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736565/" title="2011-12-06 13.02.48 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6474736565_478cf48caa.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="2011-12-06 13.02.48"></a>
Laying out the bars the length of the rack.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736705/" title="2011-12-06 14.54.35 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6474736705_3b94aabb91.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 14.54.35"></a>
Finish welding on the supports that run across the roof. I used 2 layers for the floor of the safari rack. One frame on the bottom with bars across the width of the roof and a second frame with bars running the length of the roof. It is probably more than I needed for support but I would rather have it overbuilt the fail while running down the road.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736853/" title="2011-12-06 14.54.44 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6474736853_daedb88cfd.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 14.54.44"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6474736985/" title="2011-12-06 14.55.03 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6474736985_4468e97587.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-06 14.55.03"></a>
Laid out of the roof to check the looks and placement. I was freaking out tht it was too big, until I put it on the roof and was reminded how big the Excursion was again.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6483572249/" title="2011-12-06 15-1.52.29 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6483572249_fcbf17a215.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="2011-12-06 15-1.52.29"></a>
I put the 2 layers together and started tacking everything into place. I had to tack everywhere the bars crossed to keep things from moving or rattling.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6483572389/" title="2011-12-07 12.05.04 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6483572389_7cc69887a5.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-07 12.05.04"></a>
Laying out the upper rail. Trying to make sure it is square without any helpers sucked. I had to use the magnets, clamps, and straps to keep it square and get it tacked into place.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6483572749/" title="2011-12-09 15.28.28 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6483572749_6ae5eff0a8.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-09 15.28.28"></a>
All of the supports tacked into place just waiting to be fully welded.
I do have a trick or two left, but that will have to wait for a gas refill and a little more time. Hope I get it all done before our trip in 8 days.
#17
Anyone with suggestions of the best way to prep and paint the combination of the galvanized and the welded stuff when I'm done with the welding this weekend? I don't want it to flake off and have to be repainting or touching it up all the time, and I don't want it to rust through the paint. Thanks in advance.
#18
#19
Safari Rack work
Ok, I finally got the welder tuned back up and started striping the galvanizing to throw some paint down. I figured you guys would like some more pics.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494840235/" title="2011-12-11 14.35.51 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6494840235_e887477524.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 14.35.51"></a>
A little paint.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494841049/" title="2011-12-11 14.36.02 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6494841049_f5454eba33.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 14.36.02"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494842463/" title="2011-12-11 15.44.34 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6494842463_4ca40d061f.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 15.44.34"></a>
A teaser of the next addition.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494842201/" title="2011-12-11 15.44.28 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6494842201_ee2b8989f7.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 15.44.28"></a>
I have to get this all done and mounted by Thursday so I'll post the rest later, got to get back to work now.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494840235/" title="2011-12-11 14.35.51 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6494840235_e887477524.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 14.35.51"></a>
A little paint.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494841049/" title="2011-12-11 14.36.02 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6494841049_f5454eba33.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 14.36.02"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494842463/" title="2011-12-11 15.44.34 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6494842463_4ca40d061f.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 15.44.34"></a>
A teaser of the next addition.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6494842201/" title="2011-12-11 15.44.28 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6494842201_ee2b8989f7.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-11 15.44.28"></a>
I have to get this all done and mounted by Thursday so I'll post the rest later, got to get back to work now.
#21
#23
What does this rack weigh? The "stock" roof rack is limited to 200 pounds. I assume that is due to the limits of the cross bars & not the side rails.
Since this one still rests on the "stck" side rails, what sort of weight do you think will be a "reasonable" load?
Powder Coating would have been a possible alternative to paint....
D
Since this one still rests on the "stck" side rails, what sort of weight do you think will be a "reasonable" load?
Powder Coating would have been a possible alternative to paint....
D
#28
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6514406103/" title="2011-12-14 17.07.55 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6514406103_f71c5ca568.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-14 17.07.55"></a>
#29
#30
Ok the rack is done, mounted, and already has 2 tires strapped to it. I'm amazed at how many times I have had to modify the plan but happy with the result, so far...
I'll see if I can wrap up the construction and installation process for you guys, I missed pics of a few things but you should get the idea.
I had planned to bolt the rack to the stock cross bars, possibly adding 2 more cross bars to distribute the load better. Plan changed because I can't find an Ex in a salvage yard anywhere around here to get the cross bars, I didn't like how high it was, and I didn't want to rely on the factory clamps to hold it all down. So off came the cross bars and side rails for some more cutting of the rubber spacer and drilling of some holes in the rails.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6514405561/" title="2011-12-14 14.26.26 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6514405561_ccb12d0fd2.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-14 14.26.26"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881351/" title="2011-12-15 11.05.59 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6516881351_5f70d2b5d4.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.05.59"></a>
Decided to use the J-bolts to attach the rack to the side rails. They have a safe working load of #160 each and I used 10 to attach the rack to the rail with fender washers and nylock nuts so they don't work loose.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516880335/" title="2011-12-15 10.48.29 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6516880335_22de410ecc.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 10.48.29"></a>
Shot of how far off the roof the rack is sitting.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881183/" title="2011-12-15 11.01.59 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6516881183_77e7a62724.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.01.59"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516880987/" title="2011-12-15 11.01.54 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6516880987_028450ab68.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.01.54"></a>
3 pieces of 3/8 rubber stacked to support the rack. The bottom on is longer to spread the load on the rail and the top 2 are what was cut from under the rail to get the spacing right for the J-bolts.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516880835/" title="2011-12-15 11.01.34 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6516880835_301781f862.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.01.34"></a>
The J-bolts on the driver side.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881623/" title="2011-12-15 11.49.46 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6516881623_86246b04df.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.49.46"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881797/" title="2011-12-15 11.50.10 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6516881797_bdca4e9e27.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.50.10"></a>
You wanted to see what the little pieces were for so here it is. I wanted a wind deflector but wanted to be able to remove it if needed. The sides are open so it doesn't contribute to the side sail area of the Ex.
I'll see if I can wrap up the construction and installation process for you guys, I missed pics of a few things but you should get the idea.
I had planned to bolt the rack to the stock cross bars, possibly adding 2 more cross bars to distribute the load better. Plan changed because I can't find an Ex in a salvage yard anywhere around here to get the cross bars, I didn't like how high it was, and I didn't want to rely on the factory clamps to hold it all down. So off came the cross bars and side rails for some more cutting of the rubber spacer and drilling of some holes in the rails.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6514405561/" title="2011-12-14 14.26.26 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6514405561_ccb12d0fd2.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-14 14.26.26"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881351/" title="2011-12-15 11.05.59 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6516881351_5f70d2b5d4.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.05.59"></a>
Decided to use the J-bolts to attach the rack to the side rails. They have a safe working load of #160 each and I used 10 to attach the rack to the rail with fender washers and nylock nuts so they don't work loose.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516880335/" title="2011-12-15 10.48.29 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6516880335_22de410ecc.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 10.48.29"></a>
Shot of how far off the roof the rack is sitting.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881183/" title="2011-12-15 11.01.59 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6516881183_77e7a62724.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.01.59"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516880987/" title="2011-12-15 11.01.54 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6516880987_028450ab68.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.01.54"></a>
3 pieces of 3/8 rubber stacked to support the rack. The bottom on is longer to spread the load on the rail and the top 2 are what was cut from under the rail to get the spacing right for the J-bolts.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516880835/" title="2011-12-15 11.01.34 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6516880835_301781f862.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.01.34"></a>
The J-bolts on the driver side.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881623/" title="2011-12-15 11.49.46 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6516881623_86246b04df.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.49.46"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53700883@N06/6516881797/" title="2011-12-15 11.50.10 by 1952 Ford F-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6516881797_bdca4e9e27.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2011-12-15 11.50.10"></a>
You wanted to see what the little pieces were for so here it is. I wanted a wind deflector but wanted to be able to remove it if needed. The sides are open so it doesn't contribute to the side sail area of the Ex.