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Old 12-07-2011, 11:39 AM
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The VIN game

Okay, who would like to decode this VIN for me. From what I have read, this truck should have the I6, but apparently it does not. Are there any other lies this truck is telling me. I know it was originally red.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:14 PM
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Okay, who would like to decode this VIN for me. From what I have read, this truck should have the I6, but apparently it does not.

Are there any other lies this truck is telling me. I know it was originally red.
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Compare the VIN on the Warranty Plate with the VIN on the registration to see if they match.

People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99% of the time, they did not install the original Warranty Plate on the replaced door.

If the VIN's match: The engine's been swapped. The dual master cylinder isn't original either.

F10 = F100 2WD

J = 223 1V I-6.

D = Dallas TX Assembly Plant.

331514 = 1963, assembled September 1962.

114" Wheelbase.

J = Rangoon Red.

F100 2WD, 5,000 lbs. GVWR

81A = Standard Cab.

F = Borg Warner T-98 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

A2 = Dana 44 Rear Axle / 3.92-1 / Limited Slip / 3,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.

5,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

114 net HP @ 3,600 RPM

51 = Denver CO Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
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In my short time here, I knew I could count on you for a response. Okay so the engine is different and so is the transmission. The truck currently has the 3 on the tree setup.

Maybe one day she will be red again. Thanks for your input.
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Okay, so I took your advice and checked the VIN listed on the title and it doesn't match whatsoever. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even seem to match how the VIN is laid out. MN title, VIN listed 40W027033. Is the also supposed to be located somewhere else on the vehicle? I checked the glove box and on the passenger side frame rail right behind the rad, but no luck.
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the vin on the frame is there somewhere. you might need to get in there and really clean. The door looks red to match under the hood but you can tell the rivets in the vin tag were drilled out at one time, so maybe the vin tag was changed and the door might be original. Lets hope at least the frame #s match the title or you might be contacting the guy that sold you the truck....
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There will be a VIN stamping on the passenger rail about a foot behind the shock tower.

In your picture you can see the top of the rail under the manifold.

There is also a second VIN on the passenger rail under the cab section of the truck, about mid way between the cab mounts.

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Garbz - Thanks for the info, I will see what I can dig up.

Rider - I guess if the VIN doesn't match, I won't be heart broken. I don't foresee any issues with the DMV. I suppose the unforeseen issues are the worst.
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Garbz - Thanks for the info, I will see what I can dig up.

Rider - I guess if the VIN doesn't match, I won't be heart broken. I don't foresee any issues with the DMV. I suppose the unforeseen issues are the worst.
Very true. If the frame and title don't match you have an illegal vehicle. This can bite you hard under the right circumstances and state.
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Largest issue is if you title it under the door vin and the frame does not match your insurance company will not pay any claim as they will point to the truck and say that is not the vehicle we insure.

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Okay, so I took your advice and checked the VIN listed on the title and it doesn't match whatsoever. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even seem to match how the VIN is laid out.

MN title, VIN listed 40W027033. Is the also supposed to be located somewhere else on the vehicle? I checked the glove box and on the passenger side frame rail right behind the rad, but no luck.
It's a state of MN issued VIN. Whether MN stamped it elsewhere, you'll have to look for it, or contact the MN DMV, ask what their procedure is.
If the VIN on the title was issued by MN, the truck at some point (prolly when it was near new), was either a theft recovery or a salvaged vehicle.

At one time, there was most likely a metal tag on the door with that MN VIN stamped on it. The door was later damaged, replaced by a used door.

Thefts: Some thieves ground off the hidden VIN on the frame rail (prolly why you can't find it). When the vehicle was recovered, a new VIN had to be issued.

Salvage: One circumstance I'm aware of is: In 1967, a barge load of new Mustangs sank in the Mississippi River. Ralph Williams Ford in Encino CA (the worlds largest selling Ford Dealer back then) bought all of them.

They all had to be inspected, then retitled with new VIN's issued by the CHP (California Highway Patrol). The cars were repaired and sold as used cars, but...

AFAIK ... none of the buyers were informed they just bought a used sunken Mustang, many came back to the dealership complaining of a foul odor.

So, your truck could have been in a flood, or in a a fire and etc. The insurance company settled the claim, the truck was either then sold back to the owner, sold at an auction...or to a wrecking yard.

But whatever occurred, MN had to issue a new VIN for it.
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