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460/Aod Is This Possible?

I have a 78 f150 4x4 with 351m/c6. I'm wanting to put in a 460. The question is that I'm thinking about putting an Aod trans in it. Is there anyway to do this or do I have to stick with the c6.
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They had those two together in the 90's 250's/350's I know of at the least, so I don't see why not. Someone else might be able to tell you otherwise.
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Apparently yes: Ford 429/460 to AOD
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For what that adapter costs, you can buy a controller for an E4OD, which is a MUCH better transmission. It won't play nicely with the 205 thats in that F150 though.
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They had those two together in the 90's 250's/350's I know of at the least, so I don't see why not. Someone else might be able to tell you otherwise.
In stock form, the AOD was never offered behind anything larger than a 5.0/302 from Ford. The only exception was the police cars that were outfitted in the early 1980s with a 351 H.O. with an AOD transmission.
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In stock form, the AOD was never offered behind anything larger than a 5.0/302 from Ford. The only exception was the police cars that were outfitted in the early 1980s with a 351 H.O. with an AOD transmission.
I must be thinkin of the wrong one then. Friend of mine's 97 f350 before he built the engine and swapped in a c6, has the 460, and had an automatic. It's not the aod?
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Performance Automatic offers an AOD to 460 conversion kit but it ain't cheap....starts at $3,971:
Performance Automatic - AOD Ford Transmission

Performance Automatic - AOD Ford Street Smart System
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An AOD wasn't offered behind a 351, much less a 460, and certainly not an F350. The AOD was considered a light duty transmission. However, they can be beefed up to work behind the bigger engines.

The AOD was dropped after 1993. Your friend's F350 must have had a 4R70W, which is a revised, computer-controlled automatic overdrive transmission. The earlier AOD has no computer to run it and is completely mechanical, making it a popular swap on older vehicles.
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An AOD wasn't offered behind a 351, much less a 460, and certainly not an F350. The AOD was considered a light duty transmission. However, they can be beefed up to work behind the bigger engines.

The AOD was dropped after 1993. Your friend's F350 must have had a 4R70W, which is a revised, computer-controlled automatic overdrive transmission. The earlier AOD has no computer to run it and is completely mechanical, making it a popular swap on older vehicles.
Thank you for the correction, as I don't need to be giving out false information!
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In stock form, the AOD was never offered behind anything larger than a 5.0/302 from Ford.

The only exception was the police cars that were outfitted in the early 1980s with a 351 H.O. with an AOD transmission.
351W/AOD: 1980/81 Lincoln Town Car / 1980/89 LTD/Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis & Police Cruisers.

Didn't look after 1989.
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Thank you for the correction, NumberDummy. I don't need to be giving out false information either!
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I had a '90 F250 2WD SC w/460 and auto transmission. It came with factory overdrive with a switch on the dash to activate it, when desired, but I couldn't tell you they model or type of transmission but I'm sure Bill would know.

I too would like to have something like that in my '74 F350 w/460 but based upon my research, it would be very expensive and probably cost prohibitive.
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The AOD never had the switch on the dash to de-activate the overdrive gear; that would have been one of the newer computer-controlled automatic overdrive transmissions.

The overdrive on the AOD could only be de-activated by the gear selector on the column. The column on the AOD would have been set up like this: P R N OD D 1. The OD would be the overdrive gear of course, and the D would be the overdrive lockout position. The earliest models would have had P R N OD 3 1.
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The AOD never had the switch on the dash to de-activate the overdrive gear; that would have been one of the newer computer-controlled automatic overdrive transmissions
E4OD / The O/D switch could be on the dash, but it's also on the end of the shift lever (depends on apps), is notorious for snapping off. At least once a wwek, someone is b!tchin' about the little charmer.

The overdrive on the AOD could only be de-activated by the gear selector on the column. The column on the AOD would have been set up like this:

P R N OD D 1. The OD would be the overdrive gear of course, and the D would be the overdrive lockout position. The earliest models would have had P R N OD 3 1.
Its: P R N O D 2 1 / Never seen a AOD (Ford: AOT) quadrant with OD.

O typed in red for emphasis purposes only.
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Its: P R N O D 2 1 / Never seen a AOD (Ford: AOT) quadrant with OD.
My 1985 F150 has P R N OD D 1 on it. The "OD" doesn't really look like that; it has the letter "D" with a circle around it. But there is not a "2" anywhere. Every AOD I have ever seen has this pattern except for the real early ones, and they have P R N OD 3 1 for the shift pattern.
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