Just bought a toyhauler
#16
I will NEVER buy another Toy Hauler without taking it to the scales and finding out what it weighs before I sign the papers!! I got caugt up in the Weekend Warrior fiaso and discovered my trailer weighs about 1600 pounds more than they said it did.
Cut my payload down significantly to say the least, I only haul two sport ATVs so I'm fine, but still disappointed.
Good luck with the new rig, looks very nice!
Cut my payload down significantly to say the least, I only haul two sport ATVs so I'm fine, but still disappointed.
Good luck with the new rig, looks very nice!
#17
WOW 4280lbs Sami....
Yes, I have weighed mine a couple of times. Last time I weighed mine it was 3150lbs. I added a 50lbs (actually weighed it with hardware) skid plate so I round up my weight to figure it is 3300lbs, so I know I am under that amount.
I am running all types of armor and a roll cage, a 15gal fuel tank, and an engine swap.
If I remember correctly, a stock Sami weighs around 2000lbs.
Any pics or details of your Sami ?
Here is mine.
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#18
WOW 4280lbs Sami....
Yes, I have weighed mine a couple of times. Last time I weighed mine it was 3150lbs. I added a 50lbs skid plate so I round up my weight to figure it is 3300lbs, so I know I am under that amount.
I am running all types of armor and a roll cage, a 15gal fuel tank, and an engine swap.
Any pics of your Sami ?
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Yes, I have weighed mine a couple of times. Last time I weighed mine it was 3150lbs. I added a 50lbs skid plate so I round up my weight to figure it is 3300lbs, so I know I am under that amount.
I am running all types of armor and a roll cage, a 15gal fuel tank, and an engine swap.
Any pics of your Sami ?
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Try these.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/quickvwbug/3423180654/sizes/m/
http://m.flickr.com/photos/quickvwbug/3422370977/?xajax=1
#19
Like four said above, weigh it before you buy it. RV dealers will lie like a rug about weights and a vehicles ability to safely pull it.
If the MFG says it weighs 7900# empty with no options and you then add options and outfit the camper, fill propane tanks, cooking stuff, clothes, water, fuel station etc. What capacity are you left with?
What will the campers balance and axle loading be with the Suzuki loaded and water tanks empty?
I would want to know all of this before I got on the road.
My recommendations/advice: Spare tire included with camper? If not buy one. Get a bottle jack, good lug wrench and check bearing temperatures often. Get a good brake controller. Carry several lengths of 2" x 8" (4 or more) cut them long enough for both tires to fit on with a foot or so extra. I also carry shorter pieces for the stabilizer jack anchors. Trailer tires are only rated for 65 MPH, and that is with axle loads balanced. Train your wife to be a spotter especially when backing. Have Her watch for trouble and have good communications. I tell my wife to position herself where She can see me in the trucks mirrors when She is spotting for me. Check out RV.net and learn as much as you can before you head out. If you are close to a large campground or recreation area where other toy hauler owners gather take a trip over there and walk around and ask questions.
The power inverters work well if you have a bunch of batteries and a big solar panel set up. I have one but with only two group 27 batteries I can suck the life out of the batteries very quickly. I would recommend a good quiet,fuel efficient portable generator like a 3000 watt Honda. Not sure if that would power everything at once in your rig but it would do better IMO then an inverter.
Best of luck to you
If the MFG says it weighs 7900# empty with no options and you then add options and outfit the camper, fill propane tanks, cooking stuff, clothes, water, fuel station etc. What capacity are you left with?
What will the campers balance and axle loading be with the Suzuki loaded and water tanks empty?
I would want to know all of this before I got on the road.
My recommendations/advice: Spare tire included with camper? If not buy one. Get a bottle jack, good lug wrench and check bearing temperatures often. Get a good brake controller. Carry several lengths of 2" x 8" (4 or more) cut them long enough for both tires to fit on with a foot or so extra. I also carry shorter pieces for the stabilizer jack anchors. Trailer tires are only rated for 65 MPH, and that is with axle loads balanced. Train your wife to be a spotter especially when backing. Have Her watch for trouble and have good communications. I tell my wife to position herself where She can see me in the trucks mirrors when She is spotting for me. Check out RV.net and learn as much as you can before you head out. If you are close to a large campground or recreation area where other toy hauler owners gather take a trip over there and walk around and ask questions.
The power inverters work well if you have a bunch of batteries and a big solar panel set up. I have one but with only two group 27 batteries I can suck the life out of the batteries very quickly. I would recommend a good quiet,fuel efficient portable generator like a 3000 watt Honda. Not sure if that would power everything at once in your rig but it would do better IMO then an inverter.
Best of luck to you
#20
my996,
Lot's of questions.... good stuff.
I think you have the e-track from Erickson in the toy area. I use several of the connectors depending on what I'm hauling but I think using the wheel straps will work best for you. See the attached website address. Erickson Manufacturing Ltd.
Also,
Some of my checklist..
Fresh water hose, water regulator, separate flush hose (if necessary), a good sewer flush hose (get the Rhino) you won't be sorry, toilet chemical, disposible gloves for sewer cleaning, wheel chocks, pin lock, lug wrench, alum floor jack (3 ton), several 2x10x36" for leveling (also to help lift for unsprung weight if changing tires), several cable locks to secure chairs, portable bbq, etc. I also carry a jumper battery, but here's a list I found on another forum. Hope it helps.
Travel Checklist
Use this checklist to get ready for your trips.
Emergency roadside assistance information
Dealer contact information
Road atlas
Maps
Campground directory and reservation information
Vehicle registrations
Insurance card & paperwork
Vehicle owner’s manuals
First aid kit
Flashlight
Warranty card & paperwork
Address book
Emergency contact information and numbers
Camping and travel club cards
Calling card
Credit cards
ATM card
Checkbook
Office supplies
Pet records and photo (in case pet gets lost), if necessary
Valid passports, if necessary
Reading material
Prescription medication
Sunscreen
Bug repellent
Prescription eyeglasses and sunglasses
Spare keys
Medical records if you under a doctors care
Toys, games and videos for children
Infant necessities – toys, strollers, highchair, etc.
Photo of kids in case they get lost
Pet leash, collar with tags, bowls, snacks, food, toys, medications, cleanup supplies
Cell phone
Camera and video recorder
Binoculars
Give travel itinerary to family back home
Computer laptop
Sewing kit and machine
Cloth or mat to use at doorstep and under picnic table to catch sand and dirt
Whisk broom for cleaning off picnic tables
Outdoor chairs
Cooler
Plastic tablecloth, clamps, plastic bench covers
Matches
Toiletries
Kleenex
Toilet paper
Cleaning supplies
Portable vacuum cleaner
Sheets, pillows and blankets
Bath towels, wash cloths
Wardrobe Checklist
Consider clothes for every situation.
Choose machine washable, stretchable, loose fitting clothes that can mix and match easily
Knit clothes
Long silk underwear for cool weather
Sweatshirts
Jackets
Rain gear, poncho
Cotton and linen shirts for hot weather
Broken-in hiking boots and jogging shoes
Slippers
Dress up shoes
Business or evening attire
Rubber shower shoes
Swim suits
Active wear
Underwear and socks
Bathrobe
Pajamas
Belts
Hats
Hangers
Shoe rack
Laundry basket & detergent
Kitchen Checklist
Use bubblewrap around breakables
Cookbooks
Food processor
Herbs
Stockpot
Skillets
Pans
Saute pan
Measuring cups
Serving dishes
Teapot
Coffeepot
Hotplate
Pressure cooker
Slow cooker
Toaster oven
Plates and bowls
Flatware
Drinking glasses
Wine glasses
Mugs
Dish towels
Cutting board
Can opener
Tongs
Cooking fork
Ladle
Paper towels
Canisters
Tupperware, Gladware, resealable bags
Condiments from home – instead of buying new
Snacks
Bottled water
Picnic basket
Tools & Equipment Checklist
Grill, charcoal, lighter fluid
Broom
Tool box
Electric cord
Small rope
WD 40
Oil
Small funnel
Small chain and chain binder
Nuts, bolts screws
Electrical tape
Duct tape
Squeegee for windows
Bulbs
Fuses
Batteries
Small cordless drill
Electrical tester
Bungee cords
Hitch lock
Tire gauge
Floor mat
Work gloves
Disposable gloves
Rubber bands
Toilet chemicals
Leveler
Foldable ladder
Lot's of questions.... good stuff.
I think you have the e-track from Erickson in the toy area. I use several of the connectors depending on what I'm hauling but I think using the wheel straps will work best for you. See the attached website address. Erickson Manufacturing Ltd.
Also,
Some of my checklist..
Fresh water hose, water regulator, separate flush hose (if necessary), a good sewer flush hose (get the Rhino) you won't be sorry, toilet chemical, disposible gloves for sewer cleaning, wheel chocks, pin lock, lug wrench, alum floor jack (3 ton), several 2x10x36" for leveling (also to help lift for unsprung weight if changing tires), several cable locks to secure chairs, portable bbq, etc. I also carry a jumper battery, but here's a list I found on another forum. Hope it helps.
Travel Checklist
Use this checklist to get ready for your trips.
Emergency roadside assistance information
Dealer contact information
Road atlas
Maps
Campground directory and reservation information
Vehicle registrations
Insurance card & paperwork
Vehicle owner’s manuals
First aid kit
Flashlight
Warranty card & paperwork
Address book
Emergency contact information and numbers
Camping and travel club cards
Calling card
Credit cards
ATM card
Checkbook
Office supplies
Pet records and photo (in case pet gets lost), if necessary
Valid passports, if necessary
Reading material
Prescription medication
Sunscreen
Bug repellent
Prescription eyeglasses and sunglasses
Spare keys
Medical records if you under a doctors care
Toys, games and videos for children
Infant necessities – toys, strollers, highchair, etc.
Photo of kids in case they get lost
Pet leash, collar with tags, bowls, snacks, food, toys, medications, cleanup supplies
Cell phone
Camera and video recorder
Binoculars
Give travel itinerary to family back home
Computer laptop
Sewing kit and machine
Cloth or mat to use at doorstep and under picnic table to catch sand and dirt
Whisk broom for cleaning off picnic tables
Outdoor chairs
Cooler
Plastic tablecloth, clamps, plastic bench covers
Matches
Toiletries
Kleenex
Toilet paper
Cleaning supplies
Portable vacuum cleaner
Sheets, pillows and blankets
Bath towels, wash cloths
Wardrobe Checklist
Consider clothes for every situation.
Choose machine washable, stretchable, loose fitting clothes that can mix and match easily
Knit clothes
Long silk underwear for cool weather
Sweatshirts
Jackets
Rain gear, poncho
Cotton and linen shirts for hot weather
Broken-in hiking boots and jogging shoes
Slippers
Dress up shoes
Business or evening attire
Rubber shower shoes
Swim suits
Active wear
Underwear and socks
Bathrobe
Pajamas
Belts
Hats
Hangers
Shoe rack
Laundry basket & detergent
Kitchen Checklist
Use bubblewrap around breakables
Cookbooks
Food processor
Herbs
Stockpot
Skillets
Pans
Saute pan
Measuring cups
Serving dishes
Teapot
Coffeepot
Hotplate
Pressure cooker
Slow cooker
Toaster oven
Plates and bowls
Flatware
Drinking glasses
Wine glasses
Mugs
Dish towels
Cutting board
Can opener
Tongs
Cooking fork
Ladle
Paper towels
Canisters
Tupperware, Gladware, resealable bags
Condiments from home – instead of buying new
Snacks
Bottled water
Picnic basket
Tools & Equipment Checklist
Grill, charcoal, lighter fluid
Broom
Tool box
Electric cord
Small rope
WD 40
Oil
Small funnel
Small chain and chain binder
Nuts, bolts screws
Electrical tape
Duct tape
Squeegee for windows
Bulbs
Fuses
Batteries
Small cordless drill
Electrical tester
Bungee cords
Hitch lock
Tire gauge
Floor mat
Work gloves
Disposable gloves
Rubber bands
Toilet chemicals
Leveler
Foldable ladder
#21
THank you for all the info !!
Picking up the new toyahuler on Tuesday.
I trimmed back the roof line on the house earlier this week to get us an extra 1' of clearance. So now we will have 9" of clearance on each side vs the 3" we had before. Hopefully that will help out some.
Just in case I can't figure out how to get the toyhauler backed in without damaging it, my neighbor has offered to help me out. He has had multiple 5th wheel trailers so I figure he is some good help if I get into a pinch.
From what I am told, the manufacture actually weighs every trailer (dry weight) after assemby. So hopefully the weights are correct but I will still hit the scales first chance I get, just for peace of mind.
I will post up some pics when I get a chance.
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Picking up the new toyahuler on Tuesday.
I trimmed back the roof line on the house earlier this week to get us an extra 1' of clearance. So now we will have 9" of clearance on each side vs the 3" we had before. Hopefully that will help out some.
Just in case I can't figure out how to get the toyhauler backed in without damaging it, my neighbor has offered to help me out. He has had multiple 5th wheel trailers so I figure he is some good help if I get into a pinch.
From what I am told, the manufacture actually weighs every trailer (dry weight) after assemby. So hopefully the weights are correct but I will still hit the scales first chance I get, just for peace of mind.
I will post up some pics when I get a chance.
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#22
#23
#24
Backing the new toyhauler in along side the house was not as challenging as I expected. I ended up only having 9" on each side of the toyhauler but it slide right in there with minimal issues.
I just got my new toyhauler last week and tried fitting in the Sami today. It fit great except for ending up parked on the tie down rings. I need to add some more tie downs and upgrade them to stronger ones while at it.
My garage area is 12'9" and I had about 4" between the oven/stove and front bumper. I had about 6" between the spare tire and the rear ramp door. Highlift jack even cleared the bottom couch by an inch.
The rear bumper squated about 1.5" with the sami loaded inside. Not to bad I don't think.
Here are some pics :
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I just got my new toyhauler last week and tried fitting in the Sami today. It fit great except for ending up parked on the tie down rings. I need to add some more tie downs and upgrade them to stronger ones while at it.
My garage area is 12'9" and I had about 4" between the oven/stove and front bumper. I had about 6" between the spare tire and the rear ramp door. Highlift jack even cleared the bottom couch by an inch.
The rear bumper squated about 1.5" with the sami loaded inside. Not to bad I don't think.
Here are some pics :
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#25
#27
You do have a lot to learn...But it will be fun... You new TH came with a Converter to convert AC to DC to run an 12 volt lights and charge your batteries. I doubt it came with a Inverter which will allow you to run 110AC from your batteries. That is a good Idea if you do a lot of dry camping but you will probably need more than two batteries to make it pay off.
This is a good site to learn about towing and what not I would suggest a RV site like RV.Net or something similar to get specifics on RV related questions.
How did the Sami Fit??
This is a good site to learn about towing and what not I would suggest a RV site like RV.Net or something similar to get specifics on RV related questions.
How did the Sami Fit??
#28
Nice rig! Looks like you are doing all the right things. It worries me sometimes because anyone can buy a big 5er and just hit the road with no expirence at all. Set your brake controller by the owners manual and practice forward and backward! Toyhaulers are great tools to take your fun on the road, hope you have many years of enjoyment.
#29
Wow, these guys really know there stuff. I to bought my first RV last year, a toy hauler 24 foot bumper pull. I listened to the dealer who said "your 1/2 ton dodge ram will pull just fine!!". HA!!!!!, glad i had airbags already installed, i was able to get it home from the dealer completely empty. 150km trip (ya, im in Canada) took a tank of fuel. After i ended up spending $60,000 on a new ford diesel in order to pull it (got me a new truck at least).
Im surprised that you can load that much into your toyhauler.
Remember, your hitch weight is actually less when loaded with a machine.
Your tires are VERY important!, check them often. I bought mine late summer, used it once, parked it for the winter, picked it up in spring, all 4 tires were cracked all around teh side walls. I had to replace all of them before moving it.
Otherwise, just get out and enjoy it, love my unit!, but thinking ill be upgrading to a fusion 302 like "Toyhauler tug". Im thinking a garage will be nice.
Hows it hauling that 302? will a 2011 f250 6.7 with airbags haul alright?
Im surprised that you can load that much into your toyhauler.
Remember, your hitch weight is actually less when loaded with a machine.
Your tires are VERY important!, check them often. I bought mine late summer, used it once, parked it for the winter, picked it up in spring, all 4 tires were cracked all around teh side walls. I had to replace all of them before moving it.
Otherwise, just get out and enjoy it, love my unit!, but thinking ill be upgrading to a fusion 302 like "Toyhauler tug". Im thinking a garage will be nice.
Hows it hauling that 302? will a 2011 f250 6.7 with airbags haul alright?
#30
Yes. Our 302 is fantastic! It is our fourth '5er and our second toy hauler. We actually downsized from an All American Sport 385, it was a total lemon, back to the factory 3 times for cracking exterior fiberglass, plus other problems. It had a 2900# pin weight and our '05 250 6.0 with air bags did very well with it. Then we got our '10 FZ 302 Touring Edition Three last spring and it towed so much better, no more gas station and parking lot nightmares! Took it to Sturgis in '11 and it was great! Much better use of space, much more comfortable, and it is the first of any of our trailers that did not have to go back to the dealer for ANY repaires! My bike dumped 3 times in the 385! Doesn't even move in the 302. Can't say enough good things about it. Your 250 with air will handle it fine. Our '05 only required about 20 psi. for its 2300# pin, and it squats my 350 a little less than 2"(no air bags). Yeah, it has chinese time bombs on it, the only complaint, but I bought tire covers for it, and watching them CLOSE! Been towing trailers since '88 and it is by far the best. WARNING! Once you go to a fiver, you'll never go back to a TT!!! Welcome to the Ford family!
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