You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!
Hey Everyone,
I am looking for a little advice before I pull the trigger on a truck. I have been working with a dealer and he is a good dude and seems to be knowledgeable. I want to order a 2012 F-350 Crew Cab, Long Bed, FX4 with the 6.2L gas engine. (I really don't need the F-350 I could go with the 250 but for a few hundred bucks why not!) The truck will be pretty much a daily driver, runs to Lowes, tow a trailer a couple times a year and some family trips to the mountains. Anyway when I told him what set up I wanted he said that a 350 should only be purchased in the DRW configuration and that it would be hard to resale.(Not really worried about the resale since I plan on keeping it for years.) He also said that with the crew cab/long bed 4x4 the truck with be under powered by the 6.2L and the gas mileage would be terrible. As well as ride of the truck is very hard, bumpy and uncomfortable.
So I am torn at this point. He seems like a guy that is trying to steer me away from the truck and him being a sales person that seems odd. I think if he didn't care he would sale me whatever I wanted. He didn't try to steer me toward any other vehicle, he just suggested I think about it before I go through with the purchase. (I guess that's why I kinda believe him.)
I don't know what to think? Maybe I should just go buy a Tundra and save some money!! LOL
Anyway if anyone has any advice or actually owns a 350 Crew Cab/Long Bed with the 6.2L let me know what you think.
It doesnt sound like he is trying to steer you away from the truck, it sounds like he is trying to steer you towards the extra $8000 diesel engine option. And a SRW F350 will hurt the resale value? really? havent heard that one before.
Some 6.2 owners will hopefully see this thread because ive been reading the engine is overall pretty nice
Hey Everyone,
I am looking for a little advice before I pull the trigger on a truck. I have been working with a dealer and he is a good dude and seems to be knowledgeable. I want to order a 2012 F-350 Crew Cab, Long Bed, FX4 with the 6.2L gas engine. (I really don't need the F-350 I could go with the 250 but for a few hundred bucks why not!) The truck will be pretty much a daily driver, runs to Lowes, tow a trailer a couple times a year and some family trips to the mountains. Anyway when I told him what set up I wanted he said that a 350 should only be purchased in the DRW configuration and that it would be hard to resale.(Not really worried about the resale since I plan on keeping it for years.) He also said that with the crew cab/long bed 4x4 the truck with be under powered by the 6.2L and the gas mileage would be terrible. As well as ride of the truck is very hard, bumpy and uncomfortable.
So I am torn at this point. He seems like a guy that is trying to steer me away from the truck and him being a sales person that seems odd. I think if he didn't care he would sale me whatever I wanted. He didn't try to steer me toward any other vehicle, he just suggested I think about it before I go through with the purchase. (I guess that's why I kinda believe him.)
I don't know what to think? Maybe I should just go buy a Tundra and save some money!! LOL
Anyway if anyone has any advice or actually owns a 350 Crew Cab/Long Bed with the 6.2L let me know what you think.
Thanks!
I do not own one, but one of my dealers does and loves it! He has been a steady diesel fan, but became increasing disallusioned with the mileage he was getting. He has a 2010 diesel and 2011 gas. He uses it to tow back from the repo auctions and says it save him $50.00 in fuel everytime he runs between Cincinatti and Greeneville, TN.
I am not trying to start a fight with diesel owners, but he is very content with his gasser.
Steve
__________________
RVDA/RVIA Master Certified RV Technician
You think you're confused?
2002 F350 Dually, Rhino Liner, Edge Evolution (running in stock mode), 4" exhaust, 6.0 cooler
2010 F150 super cab, box stock, bed slide, ARE bed cover
Had a 2010 v-10 F350 Crew SB SRW the only reason I got rid of it was to move up to the 6.7 due to the weight of my TH and the hills around here. If the trailer was not 14k or I did not have the hills, my payment would be smaller.
As for resale, after we figured the price on the 2011 I told him I wanted to trade. I figure I lost about 1K from Purchase to Trade on the 2010. (I did put in a spray in bed liner and 5er hitch mount that were extra cost to me on the 2010)
__________________
2011 F350 Lariat Diesel Dually, White, Hitch Kit.
Finally back to burning oil. Last was 79 GMC.
I just test drove a F350 Long Bed with the 6.7 yesterday and a F250 6.75 foot bed with the 6.2, both were 4x4, the F350 had 3.31 open rear axle and the F250 had 3.75 ELD rear. Both trucks had plenty of power. With the right rear diff the 6.2 is an awesome engine. It down shifted more than the 6.7, but still had plenty of power and when you step on it the sound is SWEET!!! Both the F350 and F250 rode extreemly well for the trucks that they are. Sure the F350 doesn't turn as sharp, but it is a very nice riding truck.
I say test drive both if you can, stick with the engine you want and order the truck exactly the way you want, not what someone else thinks. The diesel is NICE, but unless you tow a heavy trailer a bunch I am not convinced it would pencil out. For my driving the Diesel with the same incentives would take 13.5 years to break even if the mpg difference was 3 mpg. MPG determination is such a personal thing depending on truck configuration, loading and driving style that it is hard to use other peoples averages. For my calculations I figured an average for the 6.2 of 13 MPG and the 6.7 of 16 MPG.
Your best advice on this is going to come from the guys in the 6.2 forum. There are several of them that have the 6.2 in a longbed F-350. I'll be glad to move this thread down there if you'd like me to....just let me know.
On another note, sometimes it depends upon your location when it comes to resale of certain vehicle configurations. That said, it doesn't sound like this guy really knows what he's talking about. I drove both the F-250 and F-350 before buying my F-350. There was no difference that I could tell between the ride of the trucks. And, my '11 F-350 rides a lot better than the '05 F-250 I traded in on it. Now my truck is a diesel but a comparison between a 250 and 350 diesel would be pretty much the same as a 250 vs. 350 gas comparison.
I have no idea where he got the idea that an SRW truck wouldn't have good resale value.
__________________
John
2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 10th Anniversary Edition, Black / Black Leather
2013 Ford Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black / Black Leather
2011 F-350 4x4 Lariat Ultimate, Oxford White / Pale Adobe 6.7L PSD 3.55 ELD / Gone but not forgotten. Moderators, Guidelines, and How They are Enforced / FTE Forum Guidelines
Your best advice on this is going to come from the guys in the 6.2 forum. There are several of them that have the 6.2 in a longbed F-350. I'll be glad to move this thread down there if you'd like me to....just let me know.
On another note, sometimes it depends upon your location when it comes to resale of certain vehicle configurations. That said, it doesn't sound like this guy really knows what he's talking about. I drove both the F-250 and F-350 before buying my F-350. There was no difference that I could tell between the ride of the trucks. And, my '11 F-350 rides a lot better than the '05 F-250 I traded in on it. Now my truck is a diesel but a comparison between a 250 and 350 diesel would be pretty much the same as a 250 vs. 350 gas comparison.
I have no idea where he got the idea that an SRW truck wouldn't have good resale value.
Powerstroke72,
Thanks for the info. Please move the post to the 6.2 forum!
John
2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 10th Anniversary Edition, Black / Black Leather
2013 Ford Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black / Black Leather
2011 F-350 4x4 Lariat Ultimate, Oxford White / Pale Adobe 6.7L PSD 3.55 ELD / Gone but not forgotten. Moderators, Guidelines, and How They are Enforced / FTE Forum Guidelines
Ahh the "all knowing" sales guy. He's either really misinformed or as others mentioned, just trying to get you into the diesel, which based on your posted intended usage, sounds like you wouldn't need. Don't let them sway you, get what you want but I can confirm the 350 long bed/crew cab is not underpowered. There's some videos in this forum of mike (5 star) pulling his 5er as well as me pulling a 15k trailer wide open up a pretty steep/long hill.
My mpg's do suck (10mpg city/13hwy) but the ride is great. I didn't buy it expecting much better than my old v10 though...
__________________
Matt
2011 F350 - 6.2 CC, LB, 4.30s, Lariat Ultimate pkg, FX4, Amp steps, Lockpick, AC LC6i, JL HD900/5, JL 13TW5, JL C5-570's, Bilstein 7100 stabilizer, Rancho RS9000XL's, Leveled w/ 35" Toyo M/T's and 5 Star tuned
**Sold - 2000 F250 V10, 6.5" Pro Comp, 37" Toyo MT's
Hey Matt.....I'm too busy right now but if you have time, you might link the truck pull you and the guys did in Millersburg recently. That is a great demonstration of your truck's ability.
__________________
John
2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 10th Anniversary Edition, Black / Black Leather
2013 Ford Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black / Black Leather
2011 F-350 4x4 Lariat Ultimate, Oxford White / Pale Adobe 6.7L PSD 3.55 ELD / Gone but not forgotten. Moderators, Guidelines, and How They are Enforced / FTE Forum Guidelines
Hey Matt.....I'm too busy right now but if you have time, you might link the truck pull you and the guys did in Millersburg recently. That is a great demonstration of your truck's ability.
The salesman is giving you good advise bighead. The
F350 I own has a rough ride. It's a 2011 Super Cab LB, SRW
with the 6.2 engine. Keeping some weight in the
bed helps improve the ride.
Please do not buy the Toyota...
I have a F350 crew 4x4 longbed 6.2 SRW. Empty I get 14.5 to 15.5 on the highway. Mixed driving between 11-12. I have the 4.3 rear and plenty of power. I carry a 4000# plus truck camper in the bed and have power to spare, and with the TC on I get 10.5 - 11mpg, which is excellent when hauling that weight with the areodynamics of a brick.
I modified the suspension with airbags and adjustable Rancho XL9000 shocks, so at this point the ride is hard empty. Before the mods , the empty ride was nice, considering its a truck. The turning radius is good , also considering the fact its a truck. This is a long, high sitting vehicle, not a pretend truck.
I traded in a 2008 diesel for this 2011 gasser and after factoring in the increased diesel maintainance costs and higher fuel costs, the cost per mile is about the same.But without the hassels of the diesel.
It sounds like the dealer is giving you the softsell, gently steering you to a vehicle that is more to HIS advantage for you to buy. Motivations could be whats available in stock, incentives, who knows. But I disagree with some of what he's telling you. Try another dealership, for a fresh sales approach and of course a price comparison. I saved 3000 with increased traein by switching dealers.
Research which rear works best in your situation. For me it was the 4.3 . The E-Lock rear dif is great to. You get suspension upgrades cheap with the"camper Package" ooption.
I test drove a 2011 F350 CC LB 4x4 with the 4.30 electronic locker a few months ago.It was an awesome truck! Your salesman is trying to get you to buy a diesel. The only reason I didnt buy the one I looked at was my truck will be paid off in a few months and I don't need a $45-50,000 truck payment with a new baby. I say go for it!
__________________ 2003 F-350 Lariat CC 4x4 7.3L Auto 148K miles
CCV mod, 6637 Filter, guages, WW, 4" MBRP.
1965 Mustang 289-2V 3 speed
1997 Taurus 3.0L OHV
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.
2003 F-350 Lariat CC 4x4 7.3L Auto 148K miles
