What is the Best Stage 1 Setup
#16
The way I read the article is they got 395 hp with single shot 160cc/30% injectors and what they called "extreme" tune.
They actually did a few base line runs as well. First run on stock sticks and stock tune, another run on stock sticks with extreme tune and the third run with Stage 1 sticks and extreme tune. There is more coming on that test but they haven't gotten around to it just yet.
Sure thing. Here is the thread.
PHP's 2001 F-250 Build. Finally! - Power Hungry Performance Forum
Post #12 has some datalogs. I found it very interesting how changing the pulse width broadened the torque curve without a major hp penalty. A lot of the info is way over my head though....
They actually did a few base line runs as well. First run on stock sticks and stock tune, another run on stock sticks with extreme tune and the third run with Stage 1 sticks and extreme tune. There is more coming on that test but they haven't gotten around to it just yet.
Sure thing. Here is the thread.
PHP's 2001 F-250 Build. Finally! - Power Hungry Performance Forum
Post #12 has some datalogs. I found it very interesting how changing the pulse width broadened the torque curve without a major hp penalty. A lot of the info is way over my head though....
#17
Thanks Al I tried to find a tread on with years that the Powdered and which had forged rod tread but I got lost. I have a e99 so I think I have the forged rods. Correct me if I am wrong.
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#19
I run a set of Swamps 175/146 single shots. I combined these with a previously installed Adrenaline HPOP and a 38R. I was lucky enough to be close to PHP last spring. So I made an appointment to have Bill spend some time fine tuning my truck on his dyno. We could have tuned it for more HP, but as Bill pointed out "I'm building a Tug Boat not a race car"
80DD is my hottest tune and I'm at 380HP and almost 800TQ. my 65 tow sets me at 351/660, and it peaks right at 2250-2400 RPM which is right where I run when I'm pulling.
Barney
80DD is my hottest tune and I'm at 380HP and almost 800TQ. my 65 tow sets me at 351/660, and it peaks right at 2250-2400 RPM which is right where I run when I'm pulling.
Barney
#20
I run a set of Swamps 175/146 single shots. I combined these with a previously installed Adrenaline HPOP and a 38R. I was lucky enough to be close to PHP last spring. So I made an appointment to have Bill spend some time fine tuning my truck on his dyno. We could have tuned it for more HP, but as Bill pointed out "I'm building a Tug Boat not a race car"
80DD is my hottest tune and I'm at 380HP and almost 800TQ. my 65 tow sets me at 351/660, and it peaks right at 2250-2400 RPM which is right where I run when I'm pulling.
Barney
80DD is my hottest tune and I'm at 380HP and almost 800TQ. my 65 tow sets me at 351/660, and it peaks right at 2250-2400 RPM which is right where I run when I'm pulling.
Barney
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#22
I run a set of Swamps 175/146 single shots. I combined these with a previously installed Adrenaline HPOP and a 38R. I was lucky enough to be close to PHP last spring. So I made an appointment to have Bill spend some time fine tuning my truck on his dyno. We could have tuned it for more HP, but as Bill pointed out "I'm building a Tug Boat not a race car"
80DD is my hottest tune and I'm at 380HP and almost 800TQ. my 65 tow sets me at 351/660, and it peaks right at 2250-2400 RPM which is right where I run when I'm pulling.
Barney
80DD is my hottest tune and I'm at 380HP and almost 800TQ. my 65 tow sets me at 351/660, and it peaks right at 2250-2400 RPM which is right where I run when I'm pulling.
Barney
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Notes: First 3 digits of model number is maximum flow rate, second 3 digits are nozzle size. Our "30%" nozzles will flow 30% more fuel than the same injector with a stock "146" nozzle; our "200%" nozzle would flow 200% more fuel in the same amount of time, etc... An "S" before the first 3 numbers indicates a Split-Shot injector. A stock single-shot injector would be 98/146, a stock split-shot S/135/146.
#24
I'm running 175/146 single shots as well however mine came from the Beans Bros! Same adrenaline HPOP & gtp38r but with intake work and AFE manifolds, Mahle pistons & 110 springs, it has not dyno'ed yet but it will break the 37/12.50's loose going into 2nd gear at half throttle! Thats on the street tune! The hot tune is just plane a__ scary!...
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#25
do yourself a favor and forget about the 38r and go with a t4i setup. an h2e or qssb or gqssb turbo is a much better turbo and you wont regret it. next is a good fuel system like a regulated return to get rid of the dead head. upgrade the hpop to something better than stock there are several out there just pick one. stage 1 single shots will be a very healthy increase in power and are perfect for a tow rig. a bts transmission never hurt anything either. head studs and valve springs are a good idea imo as well. i too have an upgraded i/c and its not a bad idea. after those main things there are a lot of little items to add to make the complete package but with those items youll be impressed.....
The transission is a given, all of the other stuff is what I am working on. The head studs are required and I like the idea of the valve springs. I actually design performance parts for small gas engines and I know the things that should be done. My goal is a towing monster that I drive to work every day. Has to be dependable but able to hook up to a 20,000 pound trailer and get on down the road. I do some mountain towing from time to time and last time the only concern I had was transmission temperature running in the 215-225 degree range. Since then I have upgraded the tranny cooler to a 6.0 cooler and it helped but I have not been back to the mountains since. The biggest mystery for me are the injectors. I appreciate the help. The turbo you mentioned, is it a Garrett? If not let me know which brand, also any particular injector brand? Thanks.
#26
Bill,
The transission is a given, all of the other stuff is what I am working on. The head studs are required and I like the idea of the valve springs. I actually design performance parts for small gas engines and I know the things that should be done. My goal is a towing monster that I drive to work every day. Has to be dependable but able to hook up to a 20,000 pound trailer and get on down the road. I do some mountain towing from time to time and last time the only concern I had was transmission temperature running in the 215-225 degree range. Since then I have upgraded the tranny cooler to a 6.0 cooler and it helped but I have not been back to the mountains since. The biggest mystery for me are the injectors. I appreciate the help. The turbo you mentioned, is it a Garrett? If not let me know which brand, also any particular injector brand? Thanks.
The transission is a given, all of the other stuff is what I am working on. The head studs are required and I like the idea of the valve springs. I actually design performance parts for small gas engines and I know the things that should be done. My goal is a towing monster that I drive to work every day. Has to be dependable but able to hook up to a 20,000 pound trailer and get on down the road. I do some mountain towing from time to time and last time the only concern I had was transmission temperature running in the 215-225 degree range. Since then I have upgraded the tranny cooler to a 6.0 cooler and it helped but I have not been back to the mountains since. The biggest mystery for me are the injectors. I appreciate the help. The turbo you mentioned, is it a Garrett? If not let me know which brand, also any particular injector brand? Thanks.
#27
You guys not in California are lucky you can run all those types of turbo's. We here have to run stock or something that looks stock for smog. Wrenchhead, Barney has a great setup with 380HP and 800FT LBS tork just for towing. He travels everywhere for work and lives with his wife RVen. Let us know what you chuse.
Chet
Chet
#28
You guys not in California are lucky you can run all those types of turbo's. We here have to run stock or something that looks stock for smog. Wrenchhead, Barney has a great setup with 380HP and 800FT LBS tork just for towing. He travels everywhere for work and lives with his wife RVen. Let us know what you chuse.
Chet
Chet
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