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Old 10-18-2011, 12:51 AM
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How do I get water out of my fuel in my 6 Liter 2004 Diesel F 350
 
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:21 AM
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Here you go, read this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...lter-hfcm.html

I have quoted it below, and also attached the necessary PDF document.
If you want to skip to just draining the water, skip the quoted text and read the PDF at the bottom.

Originally Posted by bismic
This post will present the procedure for draining water from the primary fuel filter (Horizontal Fuel Conditioning Module / HFCM / fuel pump).

(note - link in tech folder is broken so I have put this together)
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Before posting the links to the procedure, there are several points worth making:

1. Get a large diameter drain pan to collect the drained fuel. The larger the better. I use my 20 inch diameter oil drain pan.<O</O

<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="2">2</st1:NumConv6p0>. The factory drain plug in the HFCM is a <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="6">6</st1:NumConv6p0>mm hex drive brass plug (removed with an Allen wrench). It is prone to stripping AND it allows fuel to drain along the frame rail, creates a mess, and has been known to soak the person doing the job. Also, if you keep this factory plug, be sure not to over tighten it!

<O</O<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="3">3</st1:NumConv6p0>. An upgraded drain plug exists (and is highly recommended) that allows a "finger tight" installation that eliminates the issue of stripping the brass plug. This plug, if necessary, can also be removed with a 6mm Allen wrench or pliers since the plug is not "flush mounted" like the OEM plug is. It is designed with an "extension" so that it does not have to be completely removed from the HFCM like the OEM plug. This extension also causes the fuel to "wick" along the plug and away from the frame rail. This enables the flow to be directed into a container and practically eliminates the mess.
<O</OImproved Fuel Filter (HFCM) drain plug:<O</O
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-05-19.php<O</O
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php/products/HFCM_DrainPlug<O</O
Optional fuel filter drain plug Ford #<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="6">6</st1:NumConv6p0>E<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="7">7</st1:NumConv6p0>Z-<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="9">9</st1:NumConv6p0>C<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="082">082</st1:NumConv6p0>-A or International #<st1:NumConv9p0 sch="2" val="2589259">2589259</st1:NumConv9p0>C<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="91">91</st1:NumConv6p0>
<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="91"></st1:NumConv6p0>
<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="91"></st1:NumConv6p0><O</O<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="4">4</st1:NumConv6p0>. Diesel fuel will eventually swell rubber products. Coating the drain plug o-ring with oil before re-installing will help some to preserve its life, but you should keep a spare on hand because you most likely will need it at some point (I have 42k and I just had to replace mine).

<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="5">5</st1:NumConv6p0>. The WATER IN FUEL (WIF) light will come on when approximately <st1:NumConv6p6 sch="4" val="0.2">0.2</st1:NumConv6p6> pints (<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="100">100</st1:NumConv6p0> cc) of water accumulates in the module. Ford recommends draining the water from the HFCM monthly (IIRC) OR when the WIF light comes on. I do it every oil change. If you ever get the WIF light, drain the HFCM immediately.

<O</O<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="6">6</st1:NumConv6p0>. If you keep the original drain plug, one recommendation I have read (primarily for <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="4">4</st1:NumConv6p0>x<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="4">4</st1:NumConv6p0>'s) was to get an <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="8">8</st1:NumConv6p0> inch funnel and place it between front drive shaft and frame rail. Aim it into a catch pan and you won’t end up smelling like fuel for the next two days. You can also use a sheet of aluminum foil - you may have to play with the length and shape, but it should also help direct the flow of fuel into a large container. I personally love the modified drain plug. It drains perfectly into my container.

<st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="7">7</st1:NumConv6p0>. Last, after I have drained the HFCM and re-installed the plug, I cycle the ignition before starting: <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="1">1</st1:NumConv6p0> cycle of (ignition on for <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="3">3</st1:NumConv6p0> sec, ignition off for <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="15">15</st1:NumConv6p0> sec), then ignition off for <st1:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="3">3</st1:NumConv6p0> seconds and START. This is an abbreviated version of the procedure after a filter change. It is most likely not required, but I do it anyway - personal preference.

Now the links to the actual procedure (they also include filter change procedures):

http://www.dan.prxy.org/Truck/Owners_manual/Service_Points/HFCM/HFCM.html<O</O

http://www.dieselfiltersonline.com/D...ence-Guide.pdf

Please share what has worked for you.
 
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:37 AM
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If you have a "water in fuel" message on the dash,,,prob need to drain the HFCM,,,It is on the frame rail under the truck,,basically under the drivers seat,,,prob a allen head drain plug,,,it is metric,,dont recall what mm it is,,,(If your lucky previous owner upgraded the Plug to the Better one, that a good pair of pliers or Vice Grips will remove),,I usually cut the bottom off a milk Jug, or 2 liter soda bottle to catch the diesel fuel/water that comes out when I drain mine,,,normally a cup of fuel,or so comes out,,and you will be able to see the amount of water that is in the fuel/water seperator,,,Good Luck !
 
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6MM ALLEN WRENCH
 
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Why did the n00b post this same question in three different threads?
 
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Originally Posted by jc8825
Why did the n00b post this same question in three different threads?

You cut and pasted the same answer three times. Maybe we should ban your ***!

Seriously, the guy is learning his way around. Maybe we should try to help. It was a very legit question.
 
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