Last week I purchased a 450 4x4 auto that needs the motor replaced. I've been on car-part.com and there aren't many 99s available that have decent mileage. However, I've been led to believe that the V10s built in 2000-04 will also work. Is that true? If so what's the deal with the EGR? Many of the listings say "Missing EGR" or "Check EGR", is that a critical component or is it a part that my mechanic can buy at Napa?

Also, is there a better source for engines outside of car-part? I've been using that site for quite a while with great success but I'm always on the lookout for other options. Thanks guys

 

I dont know much about the V10, but I do know that any 1999-2004 will work. In 2005 they changed the design to a 3-valve design and they are not interchangeable with the pre-2005 2-valve.

 

A lot of the 00'-04' SD V10 did not come with EGR. My 04' does not have EGR. I would try and get ahold of a 2003 or 2004 V10 because of the increased spark plug thread count and it is a PI engine with more power vs your 99'. The PI engines came out in 2000.

The EGR is not really a big deal if you don't live in California or places that adopted California emissions requirements. You can delete the EGR system completely and turn the EGR functions off with a tuner with a custom tune or you can just transfer your EGR system and drivers side exhaust manifold with the EGR tube over to the new engine. I will bet money if you try and remove the EGR tube from the exhaust manifold it will break off or have to be cut off due to corrosion.

 

My Ex with the V10 from '02 was a CA truck all it's life and I don't believe I have an EGR on it. I've seen other V10s has a metal tube coming out of the middle of the exhaust manifold on the driver's side for the EGR, but mine doesn't have one. It looks like it came from Ford without it.

 

I know EGR seemed more prevalent on vehicles destined for the states with more strict emissions requirements. Why Ford put EGR on so many in 99' and far less on 00'-04' trucks is somewhat a mystery to me. I figured maybe they found out the EGR system was not really needed and they cut it out to cut down on costs. Don't know for sure. States like California may however give you a hard time if you take a truck that had EGR on it from factory and then eliminated the EGR system in the process of swapping in another engine.

 

Its been a a long time since I was a California resident but I believe if you put a 2004 engine in a 1999 truck then you must include all the emission equipment that was on the later MY engine. If the 1999 had EGR and the 2004 did not as long as you have a 2004 MY engine you will be good to with no EGR.

Of course the OP has never said where they are from so does this really matter?

 

Sounds like I can narrow my search down to a 03-04. From the looks of it there's one in South Dakota with my name on it Thanks guys

 

Enjoy the extra 35hp 15tq and better top end power.

 

Make sure you get the intake with the new engine! The PI heads require a different intake. Most everything else is the same.

You will need to lengthen one heater core hose with a 3/4" to 5/8" (I believe...) adaptor. On the '99, one hose goes to back of intake manifold. On the PI engine, it goes to front right of intake manifold.

If you want to retain the EGR, just use your old driver's side exhaust manifold and plumbing. There should be a block off plate on the new intake manifold that just unbolts to fit in the EGR. That's what I did.

Feel free to ask any other questions! The PI is a nice upgrade and well worth the effort.

 

Well, I just tried to purchase the engine but I held off because the engine came out of a 2wd truck. Does that make a difference? The guy said that it does so I just want to check with you guys about that.

 

The oil pan and oil pickup tube are different on 2WD. I swapped those as well. As I recall, the oil pump was the same, just needed to bolt on the pickup tube.

Engine mounts may be different.

I can't think of any other differences...

 

Sweet, thanks for the reply. I've searched a lot of the threads on here that deal with swapping V10 engines and a lot of your posts came up. You seem to give solid advice so I appreciate the help.

 

The engine swap is underway and I'm at a crossroad. I can't decide whether to swap the EGR or if I should find a way to tune out its function. I'd probably be money ahead by swapping it, right?

It looks like it would be easy enough to swap the manifolds. If I go that route do I need to swap out any other parts...like the intake?

 

Hello, I don't know about the egr stuff. But it is common for the exhaust manifold studs to rust and break off. Now with the motor out is the best time to pull the manifolds and replace the studs with stainless steel studs or bolts. That way you won't have to do it when it is installed.

 

Well your basically looking around the $400 mark for tuner with the custom tunes. Unless you have the pcm from the non EGR donor engine. If you swap over the old manifolds just be aware your going to want to get new studs or grade 10.9 metric bolts to bolt the swapped exhaust manifolds on. Its up to you what you decide to do. Just be careful swapping over the EGR stuff if you go that route so you don't damage the components or break the EGR tube on the drivers side ex manifold.