My regens have started to be set off by miles, not gpl's.
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My regens have started to be set off by miles, not gpl's.
Since cool weather has came in my gpl levels barely build up, and passive regen has actually kicked in when towing. Now, no matter where my gpl number is, when I roll over 450 miles regen kicks in. Takes it down about 1.6gpl. During summer my regens were religiously set at 3.5gpl and stopped about 1.2gpl. And say it starts regen and drops only a few gpl before I stop engine, as soon as I start back up its instantly back to regen. It's determined to drop a set amount when triggered by miles. Just an observation I found interesting.
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Miles per regen
I have been tracking regens since the truck was new. I have a regen that has happened every 600 miles since the truck was new. This regen will cut in even if my DPF is less then 15 percent full and I am towing the only thing that matters is the 600 mile mark. I think this regen is a little longer then the other that are produced by back pressure. I don't see too many passive regens when empty. Its interesting that yours is set at 450 miles.
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I'm using my trip and will keep track of miles in between. I reset just as the status light kicks off on my cts.
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I just took a 5,000 mile trip, empty outbound, pulling a 7,000# RV back. It actively regened every 500 miles, even if the soot percentage was in the 10% range (in which case it would indicate ~-15% when it was done. Outside temps varied from 10-30 degrees. Exhaust temps were typically 400-500 degrees empty, 600-700 degrees loaded, and 1,100-1,200 degrees in regen. With the low outside temps it seemed to take a long time for sensor #1 to get to 1,100 degrees - #2-4 would be there for several minutes before #1.
Sidebar: my truck had 10,000 miles when I left. It seems to run smoother and with noticeably more power since I've been back. Still breaking in, I guess. (19-21 mpg empty, 9-11 mpg pulling the 7,000# RV, part of the time with a 20+ mph side wind)
Sidebar: my truck had 10,000 miles when I left. It seems to run smoother and with noticeably more power since I've been back. Still breaking in, I guess. (19-21 mpg empty, 9-11 mpg pulling the 7,000# RV, part of the time with a 20+ mph side wind)
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I just took a 5,000 mile trip, empty outbound, pulling a 7,000# RV back. It actively regened every 500 miles, even if the soot percentage was in the 10% range (in which case it would indicate ~-15% when it was done. Outside temps varied from 10-30 degrees. Exhaust temps were typically 400-500 degrees empty, 600-700 degrees loaded, and 1,100-1,200 degrees in regen. With the low outside temps it seemed to take a long time for sensor #1 to get to 1,100 degrees - #2-4 would be there for several minutes before #1.)
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Assuming a passive regen is indicated by soot levels dropping while driving, I sometimes see that with EGT4 in the upper 400s. My active regens are every 500 miles, but were at about 350 prior to winter and the tow tune. I think passive regens could also be indicated by the soot level failing to rise.
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Well there you go, 572 it is. Which is hard to get to when the truck is empty and toolin' around town but easy to maintain when pulling a trailer. It's just confirmation of the old bird wisdom which says these diesel engines prefer to work hard and run hot.
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You can tell the passive regen is happening when you watch the soot % drop on the DPF PID. Soot is burning out of the DPF at 572 degrees without having to actively inject diesel fuel to heat it up.
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I started monitoring regens after some misguided soul told me that I would choke my DPF if I tuned without deleting. Turned out he was 180 degrees off the mark as I have fewer regens tuned.
My CTS told me that I was averaging over 800 miles between regens so I replaced that PID with something more useful and accurate.
My CTS told me that I was averaging over 800 miles between regens so I replaced that PID with something more useful and accurate.
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I convinced as of this evening that Ford modified the programming on the latest emissions update this past summer as to when an active regeneration will begin due to miles (lower value than before). I have seen more of my recent regenerations begin due to miles than need this winter, except for the CEL event a week or two ago where things apparently were plugged up. This is different behavior than previous winters and I have not hooked up to a trailer in four weeks. Regenerations were slightly less often in previous winters compared to summer but it would still begin based on soot GPL. Not a concern, just interesting results after five years.